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06-05-2003, 02:02 PM #11
ok.. here goes:
http://www.hickoksports.com/biograph/florestom.shtml
"....Then AFL was established in 1960 and Flores caught on with Oakland Raiders. He became starting quarterback early in the season and led league by completing 54.0 percent of his passes, throwing for 1,738 yards and 12 touchdowns...
Flores had his most productive season in 1966. Although he completed only 49.3 percent of his attempts, he passed for 2,638 yards and 24 touchdowns in 14 games.
Oakland traded him to the Buffalo Bills in 1967. A backup with Buffalo, Flores was released early in 1969 season and was picked up Kansas City Chiefs.
<b>He spent the 1970 season on Kansas City's taxi squad, then retired as a player.</b>
Now for the link to the actual Super Bowl game, which shows that Flores wasn't even on the roster
http://www.hickoksports.com/history/sb04.shtml
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06-05-2003, 02:03 PM #12
What was Leftyshan's explanation, as he really does know his sports stuff
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06-05-2003, 02:11 PM #13
Here you go Pod-
He was on the roster but did not play.
BGray- You can give the points to podstock. Sorry for the confusion.
Super Bowl IV Team Information
1969 NFL Champions
#67 Grady Alderman (T)
#87 John Beasley (TE)
#30 Bill Brown (RB)
#14 Fred Cox (K)
#15 Gary Cuozzo (QB)
#71 Doug Davis (T)
#76 Paul Dickson (DT)
#81 Carl Eller (DE)
#27 Bob Grim (WR)
#49 Dale Hackbart (S)
#50 Jim Hargrove (LB)
#35 Bill Harris (RB)
#80 John Henderson (WR)
#58 Wally Hilgenberg (LB)
#26 Clinton Jones (RB)
#11 Joe Kapp (QB)
#29 Karl Kassulke (S)
#89 Kent Kramer (TE)
#22 Paul Krause (S)
#77 Gary Larsen (DT)
#19 Bob Lee (QB/P)
#21 Jim Lindsey (RB)
#46 Earsell Mackbee (CB)
#70 Jim Marshall (DE)
#55 Mike McGill (LB)
#41 Dave Osborn (RB)
#88 Alan Page (DT)
#32 Oscar Reed (RB)
#57 Mike Reilly (LB)
#45 Ed Sharockman (CB)
#74 Steve Smith (DE)
#64 Milt Sunde (G)
#53 Mick Tingelhoff (C)
#63 Jim Vellone (G)
#59 Lonnie Warwick (LB)
#84 Gene Washington (WR)
#40 Charlie West (S)
#62 Ed White (G)
#60 Roy Winston (LB)
#73 Ron Yary (T)
1969 AFL Champions
#84 Fred Arbanas (TE)
#78 Bobby Bell (LB)
#24 Ceasar Belser (S)
#87 Aaron Brown (DE)
#86 Buck Buchanan (DT)
#71 Ed Budde (G)
#61 Curley Culp (DT)
#60 George Daney (G)
#16 Len Dawson (QB)
#12 Tom Flores (QB)
#21 Mike Garrett (RB)
#38 Wendell Hayes (RB)
#73 Dave Hill (T)
#45 Robert Holmes (RB)
#55 E.J. Holub (C)
#85 Chuck Hurston (LB)
#46 Jim Kearney (S)
#63 Willie Lanier (LB)
#10 Mike Livingston (QB)
#82 Ed Lothamer (DT)
#51 Jim Lynch (LB)
#40 James Marsalis (CB)
#75 Jerry Mays (DE)
#32 Curtis McClinton (TE)
#6 Warren McVea (RB)
#22 Willie Mitchell (CB)
#76 Mo Moorman (G)
#25 Frank Pitts (WR)
#14 Ed Podolak (RB)
#65 Remi Prudhomme (C)
#30 Gloster Richardson (WR)
#42 Johnny Robinson (S)
#20 Goldie Sellers (CB)
#66 Bob Stein (LB)
#3 Jan Stenerud (K)
#89 Otis Taylor (WR)
#18 Emmitt Thomas (CB)
#74 Gene Trosch (DE)
#77 Jim Tyrer (T)
#44 Jerrel Wilson (P)
Minnesota
Coaching Staff
Bud Grant
Head Coach
Jerry Burns
Offense
Bob Hollway
Defense
Bus Mertes
Offensive Backfield
John Michels
Offensive Line
Jack Patera
Defensive Line
Jerry Reichow
Player Personnel Director
Kansas City
Coaching Staff
Hank Stram
Head Coach
Bill Walsh
Offensive Line
Darrel Brewster
Offensive Ends
Tom Pratt
Defensive Line
Tom Bettis
Defensive Backfield
Tommy O'Boyle
Assistant Coach
Alvin Roy
Strength
Wayne Rudy
Trainer
Bobby Yarborough
Equipment Manager
John Beake
General Assistant
*-Denotes night game.
[m] Played in Milwaukee, WI Minnesota 1969 Schedule
Date Opponent Score
Regular Season (12-2)
Sun 9/21 at N.Y. Giants L 23-24
Sun 9/28 Baltimore W 52-14
Sun 10/5 Green Bay W 19-7
Sun 10/12 at Chicago W 31-0
Sun 10/19 at St. Louis W 27-10
Sun 10/26 Detroit W 24-10
Sun 11/2 Chicago W 31-14
Sun 11/9 Cleveland W 51-3
Sun 11/16 at Green Bay [m] W 9-7
Sun 11/23 Pittsburgh W 52-14
Thu 11/27 at Detroit W 27-0
Sun 12/7 at Los Angeles W 20-13
Sun 12/14 San Francisco W 10-7
Sun 12/21 at Atlanta L 3-10
Post Season
Sat 12/27 Los Angeles W 23-20
Sun 1/4 Cleveland W 27-7
*-Denotes night game. Kansas City 1969 Schedule
Date Opponent Score
Regular Season (11-3)
Sun 9/14 at San Diego W 27-9
Sun 9/21 at Boston W 31-0
Sun 9/28 at Cincinnati L 19-24
Sun 10/5 at Denver W 26-13
Sun 10/12 Houston W 24-0
Sun 10/19 Miami W 17-10
Sun 10/26 Cincinnati W 42-22
Sun 11/2 at Buffalo W 20-7
Sun 11/9 San Diego W 27-3
Sun 11/16 at N.Y. Jets W 34-16
Sun 11/23 Oakland L 24-27
Thu 11/27 Denver W 31-17
Sun 12/7 Buffalo W 22-19
Sat 12/13 at Oakland L 6-10
Post Season
Sat 12/20 at N.Y. Jets W 13-6
Sun 1/4 at Oakland W 17-7
Other Players
(players who spent time with the team in various capacities before the Super Bowl)
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MINNESOTA- Bookie Bolin (G), Bobby Bryant (DB), Tom Hall (WR/DB), John Kirby (LB)
KANSAS CITY- Jacky Lee (QB), Paul Lowe (HB), Mickey McCarty (TE), Noland Smith (WR/HB)
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06-05-2003, 02:21 PM #14
Lefty, I don't understand.
Super Bowl III was played in 1969
(Super Bowl III: New York Jets 16, Baltimore Colts 7
Sunday, Jan. 12, 1969)
Super Bowl IV was played in 1970
(Super Bowl IV: Kansas City Chiefs 23, Minnesota Vikings 7
Sunday, Jan. 11, 1970)
So, what's going on?!?!
I don't understand here...Flores may have played in 1969, but the Chiefs didn't get to the Super Bowl in 1969. They got there in 1970, and Flores wasn't on the team in 1970
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06-05-2003, 02:26 PM #15
Pod-
Did you read the top of my post? He was on the roster but did not play. The Super Bowl is played in January. The '69 season had the Super Bowl in '70. That's why the rosters say '69 Division Champs. You were right, I was wrong.
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06-05-2003, 02:32 PM #16
Sorry, Lefty, I did not see that.
My apologies.
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06-05-2003, 06:29 PM #17
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