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08-07-2008, 03:25 AM #1
Is Obama "The One?"
McCain's latest commercial. It is amazing how Obama thinks he is Moses. :)
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08-07-2008, 04:50 AM #2
What's even more amazing is how pathetic of a campaign John McCain is running. McCain continues to run these outrageously exaggerated ads bashing Obama instead of actually producing ads that speak to McCain's policies or strengths.
The funny thing is that McCain is playing right into Obama's hands. Obama has consistently stated that we need to do away with the politics of the old. Ads likes these are a perfect example of what Obama is referring to. Not to say that Barack has a clean slate on that front, but I can't imagine these ads will only hurt McCain. Comparing Obama to the likes of Paris Hilton & Britney Spears, and now making it seem like Obama has deemed himself as the "one" is not going to help McCain any. He should be focusing on his policies and where they differ from Obama, not outlandish claims about Obama's character and personality.
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08-07-2008, 09:35 AM #3
I was a little surprised by them...it seemed like things some people thought but wouldn't actually put in ads. I don't think they're very effective either and, I agree Bonds, McCain should be focused more on policies and Obama's claims. Obama's ads have a lot of claims that are just begging to be questioned.
One thing McCain does have going for him is that people are getting tired of seeing Obama. There've been a few polls in the past couple of weeks asking about media coverage and advertisements and the majority said they are seeing too much of Obama and too little of McCain. I don't think that will have a huge effect, but during the same timeframe, McCain has been slowly closing the gap in regular polls so it may be having a small effect at least.
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08-07-2008, 09:50 AM #4
I have to think that McCain believes he can beat Obama in a policy debate, especially considering McCain has been clamoring for several town-hall like meetings with Obama and the general public.
Yet, with the ads he runs it almost sets the impression that his campaign seems to think it is more effective to try and paint Obama as someone he isn't with personal attacks. As you hinted at Tiger, McCain would likely have much more to gain by running adds either attacking weaknesses in Obama's policies or by showing the contrast in the two candidates' policies.
There's no doubt that some Americans will not vote for Obama because of things like his name, the Rev Wright debacle, and yes sadly even his race but if McCain things that playing on those fears is going to help him in this campaign I think he is in for a major surprise. While primaries and the real deal in November are a whole lot different, I think Obama and Americans that voted for him in the primaries have proven that those "character questions" are not going to prevent him from taking the white house (barring a major gaffe by Obama). Although I heard an alarming figure the other day that somewhere around like 10-15% of Americans believe Obama is Muslim. Regardless, beating Obama on policy is a whole different story that is obviously fair game. There are some stark differences between the two on policies which I think and hope will decide the election.
I heard an interesting take on this on CNN the other day, which was that if this was November there is no way in hell McCain would be running these ads. The point being that with the election still in the distance he can afford to kind of throw this crap out there and see what sticks without having to worry about it backfiring too much. As the election nears perhaps he will focus more on the issues, especially when the debates and so forth roll around.
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08-07-2008, 10:21 AM #5
You're right...regardless of what McCain's camp actually thinks, his ads do look pretty desperate. I think what you heard on CNN about it does make sense and is probably the case, but they give the impression that nothing else has worked and it's a last ditch, weak effort.
And I agree, there is a disappointingly large number of people who will vote against Obama strictly based on his name and race. It infuriates me that kind of mentality is still present today and even more so that I have some friends and family that fall into that category. But, I don't think those are issues that will be helpful at this point. People who think that way or let those kind of issues influence their opinion already have their mind made up. The swing voters, the people who are yet to decide and the people whose minds might be changed, are looking more for substance, at policies and political history. Just another reason McCain's ads are relatively useless, perhaps even detrimental...the people who agree with them already agreed with them and the people who don't may look at it like we have said, that he is avoiding the issues and doesn't have anything helpful to say on them.
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08-07-2008, 10:31 AM #6
Let's not forget that both campaigns are bad-mouthing the other. Obama has on several occasions hinted that the McCain camp is racist and McCain has these, in my opinion, humorous ads on Obama. This is nothing new, either. Every four years, there will be bad-mouthing. Some some Hilary didn't do enough of it, and that's why she lost, so I guess McCain isn't going to lose without his jabs.
Bonds, in a policy debate you said that Obama would easily win. He certainly wouldn't win me over. Obama wants more government in every facet of life. Just because he doesn't say that doesn't mean a thing. He wants to "use the oil companies' profits to give us all a $1000 energy check." Let's think about that: the president of the USA wants to raise taxes on an industry that makes 4% back when we buy their product ( the government makes 15%). He wants to take their money, which was honestly earned, and give it to others...Robin Hood? The government has no business acting like this. This higher tax on oil will do NOTHING because the oil companies will simply raise their prices, and it will negate our checks. Stupid policy, Nobama.
That being said, I'm not a McCain fan.
I wish they would do away with ads and just have debates. That's it. Then we'd know where they stand and how they act under pressure.
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08-07-2008, 10:53 AM #7
If McCain's campaign people keep using those type of ads, they are only helping Obama to get more supporters. Plus McCain is distancing from the current President and they belong to the same political party. I think that McCain is hurting himself with all this "promotion"
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08-07-2008, 10:57 AM #8
Where's Fred Thompson....
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08-07-2008, 11:24 AM #9
Running ads solely based on your opponent's character is a whole lot different than what Obama has done. Not saying that he is innocent but I think McCain is taking it to a much higher level. I understand that bad-mouthing has long been a part of politics and will continue to be, I just think McCain would be wise to use a different approach consider many people have been attracted to Obama's support of a new kind of politics. Whether or not Obama subscribes to those new kind of politics himself is a whole different debate.
Not once did I say Obama easily win in a policy debate. What I said is that McCain should be focusing on the issues and make this election about the issues as opposed to the typical crap that really makes no difference.
By running these ads, McCain is giving off the impression he doesn't think he can win a policy debate. Do I think McCain believes that? Absolutely not, but his ads can give that impression.
As far as your point on Obama's oil policy, McCain should be making arguments like that in his ads. I hope that as the election nears he will turn to ads like that instead of this garbage that he is running right now.
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08-07-2008, 11:30 AM #10
I missread what you wrote about the policy debate earlier!
Yeah, I wish McCain would stop trying to be so vague in his ads like, "Can Obama lead??" That's not going to win votes. What will win votes is if McCain would break down the fundamental problems that many of Obama's policies have.
If McCain will select Mitt Romney as his VP, I will have a re-invigorated spirit.
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Originally Posted by daniel3417 
