Rove Opens His Mouth... Again

[JayJagFan]

Corruption is perpetual in a two party system. Neither party is more corrupt than the other.

[mikesilvia]

I've got to use one of your lines, Mike:

Did you even read the article?

I did read the article. Did you even read my post? I was responding to your comments. Now, how about answering my question? Why does Rove matter? Or is it that Democrats can't stop losing sleep at night about the 2000 election? Just a suggestion. Get over the 2000 and 2004 elections and focus on the 2008 election. Obama could actually win if his supporters actually focused ob McCain vice Bush and guys like Rove.

[Rockman]

Bush does matter in this election. He was the previous president, he created policies, many of those policies that don't work and need to be (Get ready for the magic C word) changed. Some are making an argument that McCain wont change a lot of these policies. The previous President always matters for the President succeeding them. It all builds upon each other, and when things don't work they need to (Here it is) change.

[mikesilvia]

Bush does matter in this election. He was the previous president, he created policies, many of those policies that don't work and need to be (Get ready for the magic C word) changed. Some are making an argument that McCain wont change a lot of these policies. The previous President always matters for the President succeeding them. It all builds upon each other, and when things don't work they need to (Here it is) change.

So, taking that point we should change the Senate and House since their approval rating is less thnt 10% or 1/2 of Bush's? They are also the reson our gas prices are so high. So, I agree Change is needed!

Also, if McCain is not change, then why did John Kerry choose him as his VP? I'd be interested to hear any responses on that.

[Rockman]

So, taking that point we should change the Senate and House since their approval rating is less thnt 10% or 1/2 of Bush's? They are also the reson our gas prices are so high. So, I agree Change is needed!

Also, if McCain is not change, then why did John Kerry choose him as his VP? I'd be interested to hear any responses on that.

Ill get to the other stuff in a bit, but can you elaborate on what you mean in the Bold text. McCain has said that it was never offered to him. As I would hope you know the ticket was Kerry/Edwards that year.

Transcript

SNOW: Well, you’re absolutely right though, it’s going to be fun to see. Now John Kerry, is it true that John Kerry asked you to be his vice president?

McCAIN: Uh, no. No, it was never offered.

SNOW: It was never offered. So, it may have been discussed elliptically, but never flat out request.

McCAIN: Never was an offer, no.

The problem with the house and senate right now is that since Democrats have taken over the house they have been trying to pass legislation. However the republican party have been blocking everything and since the senate is split down the middle nothing has been getting done. Since nothing has been getting done approval ratings have gone down. Im not sure what the approval rating is right now but I would like to see where you got that percent.

Hopefully this response was as interesting as you hoped it would be.

[mikesilvia]

Too funny!

"even though McCain is a Republican, he was heavily vetted by Kerry as a Kerry/McCain ticket was seen as unbeatable."

Kerry was considering him until McCain said no.

So, let's watch the RNC this week. Al Gore's running mate in 2000 Joe Lieberman is speaking for McCain. John Kerry was considering McCain for his VP.

So, how does it feel that the 2000 Democrat VP is speaking at the DNC and Kerry's pick for VP (until McCain said no) is the nominee?

[mikesilvia]

A little more:

Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry has discussed the vice presidency with Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on several occasions, the most recent in the past two weeks, informed sources said yesterday. But the conversations have gone nowhere because McCain believes such a bipartisan ticket would not work and could weaken the presidency, they said.

Although Kerry has made no formal offer to McCain to join the Democratic ticket, according to these sources, the purpose of the discussions appears to have been to gauge McCain's interest. McCain's resistance has not wavered, despite his close friendship with the Massachusetts senator, a fellow Vietnam War veteran.

Don't facts suck?
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...2004Jun11.html

[Rockman]

Too funny!

"even though McCain is a Republican, he was heavily vetted by Kerry as a Kerry/McCain ticket was seen as unbeatable."

Kerry was considering him until McCain said no.

So, let's watch the RNC this week. Al Gore's running mate in 2000 Joe Lieberman is speaking for McCain. John Kerry was considering McCain for his VP.

Mike take a breath and think about what you are posting before you post it. Im not saying the two didn't have conversations about it. However Kerry has stated he never offered it to him and McCain has stated that it was never offered to him. Talking about it and offering it are two different things.

So, how does it feel that the 2000 Democrat VP is speaking at the DNC and Kerry's pick for VP (until McCain said no) is the nominee?

How does it feel? It feels fine. Once again, Kerry never offered it, as for Lieberman good for him. This has swayed far enough from the original topic. My original response to you wasn't to get into a debate about Kerry's campaign. Im done with this subject.

[mikesilvia]

Mike take a breath and think about what you are posting before you post it. Im not saying the two didn't have conversations about it. However Kerry has stated he never offered it to him and McCain has stated that it was never offered to him. Talking about it and offering it are two different things.

Never said he was offered it "formally". He was vetted and Kerry would have picked him officially if McCain wanted it.

Democratic presidential candidate John F. Kerry has discussed the vice presidency with Sen. John McCain (R-Ariz.) on several occasions, the most recent in the past two weeks, informed sources said yesterday. But the conversations have gone nowhere because McCain believes such a bipartisan ticket would not work and could weaken the presidency, they said.

Although Kerry has made no formal offer to McCain to join the Democratic ticket, according to these sources, the purpose of the discussions appears to have been to gauge McCain's interest. McCain's resistance has not wavered, despite his close friendship with the Massachusetts senator, a fellow Vietnam War veteran.

So, take a deep breath and don't hold it in too long. :) John Kerry wanted McCain and that is the point. McCain said no. So, the 2000 and 2004 #1 VP choices for Democrats will be speaking at the RNC this week.

[Rockman]

Never said he was offered it "formally". He was vetted and Kerry would have picked him officially if McCain wanted it.



So, take a deep breath and don't hold it in too long. :) John Kerry wanted McCain and that is the point. McCain said no. So, the 2000 and 2004 #1 VP choices for Democrats will be speaking at the RNC this week.

I said I was done, I lied. Mike just stop with this argument. This is from the same article.

It is unclear how seriously Kerry has considered a unity ticket. Aides described Kerry as intrigued but not committed to the idea, even if McCain were seriously interested, which he has made clear he is not.

Stop creating things that are not there. I don't care that that McCain and Kerry had talks, Im acknowledging that they did. But stop saying that McCain was number one.