Am I The Only One Who's Scared ?

[mintman2]

my question is, how do you explain the fact that homosexuality has always existed, yet the world population continues to grow? your idea that there could ever be the possibility of 95% homos in the world just has no basis...when has there ever been a species or a time when 95% of the population was gay? Quite honestly, i find the idea of 2 men together repulsive...but it's none of my business what 2 consenting adults do together and it really shouldn't be anybody elses....it's like the tiger pimp said, the constitution grants everybody life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness

You're entirely missing the point. Many of our laws are based primarily on the fact that certain behaviors harm society as a whole. It's like when I ws littlekid I threw an apple core out of the car into the grass next to the road. My mother told me it was bad to do that and I asked her why. The abbreviated answer was "because what if everybody did it ?" What's the big deal though ? The apple will deteriorate and disappear, right ? Well, what IF everyone did it though ? Now, the idea that everybody, or let's say 95%, of people would do it is ludicrous because it IS abberant (not normal) behavior but the fact is it's not normal and as such is not promoted. Just like my hypothetical concerning homosexuality, IF everybody did it it wouldn't work out very well.

When people argue that gays shouldn't be allowed to adopt what they're really saying is that granting that particular right would be in essence promoting the gay lifestyle as "normal", which they believe it's not, and as such should not be promoted.

[mintman2]

oh thats right...its only murder, which is unlawful killing...but killing is just fine as long as it's legal right?

i guess in that case since abortion is legal, your ok with killing

the no spin zone does not stop here

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you're just nuts . LOL

Murder has nothing to do with legalities. In Nazi Germany it was legal to kill jewish people. Still murder.

[RedGoneWILD]

You're entirely missing the point. Many of our laws are based primarily on the fact that certain behaviors harm society as a whole. It's like when I ws littlekid I threw an apple core out of the car into the grass next to the road. My mother told me it was bad to do that and I asked her why. The abbreviated answer was "because what if everybody did it ?" What's the big deal though ? The apple will deteriorate and disappear, right ? Well, what IF everyone did it though ? Now, the idea that everybody, or let's say 95%, of people would do it is ludicrous because it IS abberant (not normal) behavior but the fact is it's not normal and as such is not promoted. Just like my hypothetical concerning homosexuality, IF everybody did it it wouldn't work out very well.

When people argue that gays shouldn't be allowed to adopt what they're really saying is that granting that particular right would be in essence promoting the gay lifestyle as "normal", which they believe it's not, and as such should not be promoted.

im not missing your point...i just dont think it's a very good one

littering is against the law, and breaking the law is aberrant behavior

I can't tell if you're being sarcastic or if you're just nuts . LOL

Murder has nothing to do with legalities. In Nazi Germany it was legal to kill jewish people. Still murder.

i am nuts...that there is no question to

every definition of murder includes the phrase unlawful killing...im not about to argue that nazis weren't committing murder, but in their eyes they weren't....just as in Americans eyes we aren't committing murder when we drop bombs on Iraqi villages killing innocent women & children

[mintman2]

every definition of murder includes the phrase unlawful killing...im not about to argue that nazis weren't committing murder, but in their eyes they weren't....just as in Americans eyes we aren't committing murder when we drop bombs on Iraqi villages killing innocent women & children

God's law and man's law are two very different things.

[Yanksfan396]

Nobody's answered you ? Well, that's just not right. LOL


The reason some people are against abortion, except when the mother's life is in danger, is because their belief is that the baby is a human being which has the same right to life that every other person has and nobody, not even the mother, has the right to kill another person. In the cases of rape and incest the means of conception may be grotesque but the resulting child is innocent and has the same right to live as any other person and as such, again, even the mother has no right to terminate someone's life.

In the case of homosexuals adopting it's mainly because their belief is that the homosexual "lifestyle" is abberant(sp?) behavior and undermines the basic structure of our society. If instead of 95 % of people being hetero and 5% being homo what if it was the other way around ? In less than one generation our civilization as we know it would cease to exist. So to promote that way of life and let them pass on to children the belief that that lifestyle is normal and okay would be crazy.

There's an enormous thread on the plausible extinction of the human existence if we allow gay marriage. You should check it out.

[Star_Cards]

#1. I do not agree with the idea of raising taxes on anybody, I want taxes slashed across the board...In fact, Ron Paul had the best idea I've ever heard of...completely eliminate the IRS...however, Obama's plan is to let the Bush tax cuts on the 35% bracket simply expire back to 39.6%....Like I said, I don't like this idea, but we're talking about a 4.6% increase on taxable income (after itemizing & such) and only on the amount you earn above the bracket threshold.....not a good idea, but hardly something worth being scared over

Ever read The Fair Tax? I'm not sure if this is the same plan, but it sounds perfect. Give people more take home money and reduce corporate taxes that are on all products right now. I know I'd love to be able to take home my entire pay check and decide when I pay taxes by what I buy.

Plus we'd reduce the IRS as well as the billions of dollars that people and companies spend preparing taxes every year.

m

[Star_Cards]

I find it quite ironic that a group of people are anti abortion and yet are anti gays adopting. Let me ask, which is worse to that group? being aborted or being adopted by a gay couple?

I don't see anything wrong with a gay couple adopting. I don't have numbers but I would bet a decent amount of money that most children of gay couples don't end up being a homosexual.

I also find it quite humorous that some are so threatened by homosexuality. An argument for decreased populations because of increased gays is simply laughable.

m

[haybierman]

I gotta agree with the pro-gay faction here. Isn't the most important thing that the child be brought up in a loving home?

In 2006, 3.2 million cases of child abuse were opened by law enforcement or social workers. 79.4% were caused by parents. Maybe the argument for hetero couples isn't quite so strong?

[RedGoneWILD]

Ever read The Fair Tax? I'm not sure if this is the same plan, but it sounds perfect. Give people more take home money and reduce corporate taxes that are on all products right now. I know I'd love to be able to take home my entire pay check and decide when I pay taxes by what I buy.

Plus we'd reduce the IRS as well as the billions of dollars that people and companies spend preparing taxes every year.

m

yeah, not sure if it was called Fair Tax or not, but one of the ways Ron Paul suggested eliminating the IRS was through a national sales tax where you would pay tax based on your consumption rather than your income...sounds fair to me

I find it quite ironic that a group of people are anti abortion and yet are anti gays adopting. Let me ask, which is worse to that group? being aborted or being adopted by a gay couple?

I don't see anything wrong with a gay couple adopting. I don't have numbers but I would bet a decent amount of money that most children of gay couples don't end up being a homosexual.

I also find it quite humorous that some are so threatened by homosexuality. An argument for decreased populations because of increased gays is simply laughable.

m

thank you...this is exactly what i was trying to say back on page one

I gotta agree with the pro-gay faction here. Isn't the most important thing that the child be brought up in a loving home?

In 2006, 3.2 million cases of child abuse were opened by law enforcement or social workers. 79.4% were caused by parents. Maybe the argument for hetero couples isn't quite so strong?

wow...i never would've guessed the stats were that high...and i agree, the most important thing is a loving home...i know two sisters whose parents got divorced when they were real young because their dad came out and wanted to live his life as a gay man...the parents had joint custody and they both spent equal time with their gay father....they both have told me that they never cared that their dad was gay, because he still loved them the same...that was what was important to them, and they are both married now as adults...didn't seem to harm them

[mintman2]

There's an enormous thread on the plausible extinction of the human existence if we allow gay marriage. You should check it out.

Link please ?