self education

[ashley832]

Ha...it's extremely interesting and I wish I could find a job in the field. The problem is the majority of marketing jobs I find (in my area at least) are marketing directors for companies, but of course they want someone with quite a bit of experience. Almost all the entry level positions I've seen are in sales, which I'm no good at, so I don't even try. Hope you have better luck than me!!

haha thanks. I'm in a selling class right now. My teacher made us write down if we'd absolutely take a selling job, consider it, or not at all. I put down consider it but I dont know. I'll just have to wait and see how things go in this class. But he did say that a lot of the time people in marketing starts in sales and then works their way up. Hopefully you'll be able to find something! :)

Ashley

[haybierman]

I try to read a vast amount of articles online, then check up on the tech biz....great website to check out to see some sweet gizmos and gadgets is: www.gizmodo.com

Cool site man! Thanks for the link.

[haybierman]

Ehhh, if its cool mods, I would like to post the sites I referred to earlier - don't worry they aren't competitors -

www.psychologytoday.com
www.newscientist.com
www.skeptic.com
www.medicalnewstoday.com

That's where I get the bulk of my non-mainstream info.

[OnePimpTiger]

haha thanks. I'm in a selling class right now. My teacher made us write down if we'd absolutely take a selling job, consider it, or not at all. I put down consider it but I dont know. I'll just have to wait and see how things go in this class. But he did say that a lot of the time people in marketing starts in sales and then works their way up. Hopefully you'll be able to find something! :)

Ashley

Yeah I think that's the only way to get a decent marketing job is to start out in sales. I thought I would be good at sales because I'm a really nice guy, hit it off with people right away, and can talk to basically anybody. But I found out early on (not sure why I didn't realize it to start with) that you have to be pushy to be a decent salesman...not pushy in a bad way, but continuously nagging people and not taking no for an answer while at the same time making sure they still like you....at least when you're trying to get new customers. I'm about the least pushy person in the world, when someone says no I say thanks and have a great day...so I found out I'm not cut out for it....

[ashley832]

Yeah I think that's the only way to get a decent marketing job is to start out in sales. I thought I would be good at sales because I'm a really nice guy, hit it off with people right away, and can talk to basically anybody. But I found out early on (not sure why I didn't realize it to start with) that you have to be pushy to be a decent salesman...not pushy in a bad way, but continuously nagging people and not taking no for an answer while at the same time making sure they still like you....at least when you're trying to get new customers. I'm about the least pushy person in the world, when someone says no I say thanks and have a great day...so I found out I'm not cut out for it....

Yep, thats something I will have to work on. I've never been pushy and just rather let it go than continue with it. Hopefully I'll be able to work on it in the next few years.

Ashley

[Blazin Pyro]

Overall a degree just shows that you are trainable.

I totally agree with this statement for my job. Having sat on the other side of the table, of an interview panel, I have had my say in hiring firefighters or firefighters being promoted to engineers. For the fire service and I am sure in some other professions, it's good to have that degree initially because it does show you are trainable but later it's nothing till you become a Chief at one level or another. So you will see a lot of new recruits get their AA then stop because they won't go any farther. I like to see the education and other experiences such as being a volunteer, seasonal, construction worker, medical, etc. To my simple thinking it keeps the person well rounded and not so much one sided.

I have done my self-education by going back to school over and over again. Already had an AA and completed my second during my chemo sessions. I think I am six or seven classes away from my BS which will help me get promoted. Plus we have to complete certain training every year for refresher. And the more you are "qualified" the more extra training annually. But I think the best way for me to stay up on my own skills is that I teach what I learn. So I have averaged 200 hours per year, as an instructor, for certified classes in the past five years and probably a 100 or so in refresher training for the past 15 years. In addition we are required to participate in 240 hours per year just for the dept.