Kobe autos.. HELP!

[lordfranz]

hi guys, anybody knows these kobe autos:






please help.. i dont know wat these are.. dont know also if they are legit or fake..

[cardcollector4725]

top one is as real as pam andersons boobs and bottom looks like a facs

[cardcollector4725]

kobe signed rookie year cards from scoreboard and press pass like this


and even if the card was signed at a later date, the signature still looks way off compared to his "kobe 8" sigantures

[MIDNITE Z]

First one looks fake. Second one looks like a facsimile auto

[blackmamba_24]

yop one is way fake and the bottom looks inscipted in the card like no ink

[lordfranz]

I see.. the first one has an entry at beckett online, but it doesnt have any picture on it that's why im not so sure..

anybody care to comment?

Thanks to all the replies.. any input will be very much appreciated..

[Outlander]

hard to determind kobe's auto is real or not by the signature style only... because always change his signature style.

the 1st card, well can't tell, but even if it is real, i am not interested in that Looking...

the 2nd card, i think the photo already "tell" the answer, too obvious it is a print, shiny silver color signature... no pen can do that right..

[lordfranz]

Thanks for all the inputs guys.. well the guy that is offering those cards to me admitted that the first one is just a TTM auto, and the second one is yeah, an inscipted one.. LOL!

Thanks guys! you saved my $$$..

[cardcollector4725]

wow what a dirt bag to try passing them as real