would you suspect shill bidding ?

[jbmmadman]

just curious, I filed a complaint with ebay about it (not that it'll do any good)

http://offer.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.d...m=290304614004

[RGM81]

Moved to hockey card talk.

[30ranfordfan]

I know for myself, that's generally how I bid. Often only moving up a couple of bucks, instead of $10, at a time. Rather than just punching in my 'true' max bid.... I'll run up the price, and see what the actual max bid is.

Saying that, I would be suspicious of a user bidding in that manner, when they've got the big '0' for their feedback score. At the same time, little risky for the seller to be using fake accounts (or friends accounts) to run the bidding up in multiples of $10, when the final price was $50. You max bid could very easily have been $48 or $3, or something like that, instead of $50. Plus...... the guy have nearly 6k feedback. Is he going to toss that away for a $50 card? I would like to think no.

[Nashrules]

Its entirely possible its a genuine bidder, but 0 bidders bidding 10 dollar increments would have me concerned too.

[jbmmadman]

Its entirely possible its a genuine bidder, but 0 bidders bidding 10 dollar increments would have me concerned too.

that's my concern, it's been done in $10 increments, newbies (in general) just don't do that. I lost a Neal Ice the other day because someone sniped it from me, I had my max bid at 99.99 (because it was numbered 99/99). I wanted this card, but I've retracted my bid because I feel it has been shilled, and I emailed the seller and told him why.

Personally, my seller preferences are set at I accept no bids from buyers with 0 feedback, more than 1 unpaid item strike and a couple other things. I just don't trust 0 feedback buyers especially on high dollar cards. Jim

thanks for the thoughts guys

[cprince80]

I bid like that all the time and Im pretty new. My conection is slow and I have lost alot of cards I really wanted cause the other bidder would up me by a dollar. I won a card yesterday I was suspicious of though. The price went from $31 to $115 in a matter of seconds with someone bidding against me constantly then it stopped suddenly. The card however is worth considerably more I figure and I wanted it badly so Im paying anyway.

[Drewk86a]

I would definitely say "YES" this is shill bidding. The seller of this item also had a Luke Shenn Ice RC that was going for $23 until the same bidder (t***3) bumped it up to $75.

I am also suspicious when I see that bidder t***3 has bid on 58 different items and has not won a single auction. To me that says SHILL.

[cprince80]

How do you figure out how many different things that person bid on?

[Drewk86a]

Go to the auction page and click on the name of the high-bidder. Since the auction is open it will show the fake name (with the ***). When you click on the name it will bring up a screen showing the recent bid activity for that person. It also shown how many items they have bid on (top part of screen)

Catching a shill is sometimes very difficult. Sometimes you have to look at the bidders history and compare it to the seller's history.

[cprince80]

Thanks good to know. I wonder if there is a way to find the people with the worst feedback rating. I love reading all the horrible things people write over a slight inconveniance lol