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    Who cares anymore?

    I watched the country get attacked under Bush/Cheney and all the lies, torture, corruption they pulled off and if the recent leak that cheney ordered a prisoner tortured to help form a link between Iraq and 9/11 is 1/2 true then he should be in jail..

    I watched as we started 2 wars that didn't need to be fought, the CIA gave intel tha proved not true to get us into Iraq now we are supposed to believe ANYTHING they say? We attacked afgan and the taliban when the Taliban NEVER attacked another country, it was Bin Laden who attacked america and he was allowed to walk free.

    We tortured, killed tens(maybe hundred) of thousand innocent civilians, sent kids to prison without letting them talk to anyone, held people without trial or charges for 8 years.. Invaded 2 sovereign nations and made the country less save by allowing Iran and North Korea to run wild under Bush..

    Now Obama proving he is a true wimp is backing out on ALL his promises that I supported.. He

    1. Won't go after the illegal actions of the bush cheney years and let it go free (and now I thing Pelosi should be under investigation also)

    2. Has taken single payer healthcare off the table and given in to the insurance companies

    3. Let the credit card companies write the anti credit card bill again(like Bush did)

    4. Brought back the tribunals at Gitmo

    5. Caved at telling the truth about torture and releasing photos and gave into cheney/limaugh


    The dems are proving again and again they have no spine and are in the pocket of corporate america


    So what about the republicans?

    1. They killed the bill that would make it easier for people to help stay in their homes proving they are in the pocket of the banks

    2. They are fighting the attempt to close the loophole that allows people to put money overseas saying it's a tax increase when it's just people paying their share

    3. kissing the arse of Rush limbough the racist, hippocrit, drug addict (and if you don't think he is just do some reasearch) and his latest comments saying Obama wants the economy to fail so black people can get more welfare and goverment money and that's how he will give them reperations for slavery is sick...

    4. They are threatening going after Clinton if the dems look into bush (funny they had no problem going after him and I think torture is much worse then a lie about a hummer)

    So the Right has balls but don't give a crap about america and americans all they care about is the rich and unborn.. If your poor then sucks to be you just die and make america better is their motto

    So with both parties in the tank what's the point? Maybe Hannity was right and a revolution is on the way..

    PS Glenn Beck is still a whack job..

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    Unlike what the media wants you to think there are more than 2 parties in America. Trying voting and supporting THEM instead of these frauds.
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    The two party system is here to stay. And even if things "changed," the system would be the same. If some group were to organize and seize party control and competition, the foundation of party rule and domination would still exist because the party would become conservative to ensure its survival - politics becomes about the well-being of the party (and the party leaders) rather than the people the party represents. So even if a third party (or "the people") were to come about and gain more influence, it would simply become about group survival and retainment of political domination through representation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pwaldo View Post
    Unlike what the media wants you to think there are more than 2 parties in America. Trying voting and supporting THEM instead of these frauds.
    I did in the past and it made no difference LOL. It will take some serious time before a independent party candidate wins. I just hope it sooner than later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by streicher187 View Post
    I watched the country get attacked under Bush/Cheney and all the lies, torture, corruption they pulled off and if the recent leak that cheney ordered a prisoner tortured to help form a link between Iraq and 9/11 is 1/2 true then he should be in jail..

    I watched as we started 2 wars that didn't need to be fought, the CIA gave intel tha proved not true to get us into Iraq now we are supposed to believe ANYTHING they say? We attacked afgan and the taliban when the Taliban NEVER attacked another country, it was Bin Laden who attacked america and he was allowed to walk free.

    We tortured, killed tens(maybe hundred) of thousand innocent civilians, sent kids to prison without letting them talk to anyone, held people without trial or charges for 8 years.. Invaded 2 sovereign nations and made the country less save by allowing Iran and North Korea to run wild under Bush..

    Now Obama proving he is a true wimp is backing out on ALL his promises that I supported.. He

    1. Won't go after the illegal actions of the bush cheney years and let it go free (and now I thing Pelosi should be under investigation also)-What illegal Actions??? you sound like the Clinton News Network

    2. Has taken single payer healthcare off the table and given in to the insurance companies--Good, Universal healthcare is a fraud and is communism. You want that, go to Canada

    3. Let the credit card companies write the anti credit card bill again(like Bush did)---Then dont have a credit card. I dont

    4. Brought back the tribunals at Gitmo---Good, theyre not Us Citizens, and I dont care what it takes to make america safe. These are nto peopel that sit down and chat with you, they wont to kill you

    5. Caved at telling the truth about torture and releasing photos and gave into cheney/limaugh----yeah lets **** of the muslim world even more, GREAT IDEA


    The dems are proving again and again they have no spine and are in the pocket of corporate america


    So what about the republicans?

    1. They killed the bill that would make it easier for people to help stay in their homes proving they are in the pocket of the banks--I always foudn the easiest way was to pay your mortgage. If you borrowed more then you coudl afford, sucks to be you

    2. They are fighting the attempt to close the loophole that allows people to put money overseas saying it's a tax increase when it's just people paying their share--God forbid successful peolel try to pay a littel less in taxes, they already pay 95% of them in the country, lets make em pay more

    3. kissing the arse of Rush limbough the racist, hippocrit, drug addict (and if you don't think he is just do some reasearch) and his latest comments saying Obama wants the economy to fail so black people can get more welfare and goverment money and that's how he will give them reperations for slavery is sick... I dont even understand what this is about, so Im nto goign to even dignify it with a response.

    4. They are threatening going after Clinton if the dems look into bush (funny they had no problem going after him and I think torture is much worse then a lie about a hummer) your right, lieing under oath is not a problem at all, why dont we all do it

    So the Right has balls but don't give a crap about america and americans all they care about is the rich and unborn.. If your poor then sucks to be you just die and make america better is their motto

    So with both parties in the tank what's the point? Maybe Hannity was right and a revolution is on the way..

    PS Glenn Beck is still a whack job..
    First, your absolutely right, theres nothing wrong with the Taliban, we shoudl let them run free. Theyre not big supporters of Osama Bin Laden or anything. do you have any idea as to how rediculous that sounds?

    SO you see my counter points, how would you change all of these "problems"?? what are your ideas?

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    Quote Originally Posted by streicher187 View Post

    1. They killed the bill that would make it easier for people to help stay in their homes proving they are in the pocket of the banks.
    You should know the Dems forced the banks to give loans to people the banks knew could never pay the note, all in the name of "equality".

    By the way, Chris Dodd or Barney Frank, or both got special rates from Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac for protection. Does anybody say anything about that?

    Queen Pelosi flies around on a private jet on taxpayer money. She lied about know about the EIT's. What's being done about that? A republican would fall on the sword and get out of the spotlight. She will cause a giant circus to take everyone's eye's off of what's really going on.

    And by the way, waterboard all the terrorists, and use EIT's on all of 'em. They use dull machetes to cut off the heads of Americans. They use unthinkable and unimaginable tactics on us. We use cotton candy waterboarding which every Navy Seal and Special Forces soldier has experienced to be prepared for the enemy.

    If we waterboard our own, why can't we waterboard them???

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    Quote Originally Posted by streicher187 View Post
    Now Obama proving he is a true wimp is backing out on ALL his promises that I supported.. He

    1. Won't go after the illegal actions of the bush cheney years and let it go free (and now I thing Pelosi should be under investigation also)

    2. Has taken single payer healthcare off the table and given in to the insurance companies

    3. Let the credit card companies write the anti credit card bill again(like Bush did)

    4. Brought back the tribunals at Gitmo

    5. Caved at telling the truth about torture and releasing photos and gave into cheney/limaugh


    But he was ya'll's "messiah"......The "oh great one" with all the "change"......

    You should already know the Dems were in the pocketbook of big healthcare. If the clinton's couldn't do it, how could the "messiah".

    But let me see....

    You would rather let the Anti-American, American-hating, radical muslim terrorists loose on American soil and give them welfare??.....

    Rather than give them cadillac treatment at a 5-Star resort compared to what they're used to??

    And on Healthcare, research how great care in Canada or Britan is before you make up your mind on the singlepayer system.....

    -rationed care, the elderly are passed over and allowed to suffer and eventually die to give care to younger people
    -long wait times, people have died waiting the 6 months it takes to get an X-Ray when the X-Ray they were waiting for could've diagnosed their illness
    -significantly lower quality of care, pay is regulated by gov., and the high salaries that are the motivator for the "best and brightest" are greatly reduced thus allowing the "no child left behind" to do your brain surgery.
    -etc., etc., etc.


    The "dog and pony show" of going after previous administrations is just a 5-Card-Monty game to keep you from watching what's really going on.

    Not too long ago, the sitting President would never think of even critisizing the previous administration. But, politically correctness, absence of standards or respect for the position, absence of cooth, respect, and dignity are showing just how "presidential" this guy really is.

    If ya'll want socialism, move to Europe. If ya'll want communism, move to China

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