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    Patch forger... caught!

    To SCF Mods... although I discuss another site, I hope the essence of this thread and seriousness of the issue overshadows the site name.


    Patch forger... caught!


    This investigation by HI members has been ongoing for awhile now. Having evidence is always critical in finding a true forger, and we now have substantial enough information to send to eBay, Upper Deck and the RCMP, along with the eBay members who bought his forged cards. This is not defined as "fraud", but "forgery", under the Criminal Code of Canada. It will be interesting to see how this moves forward, but for now... this forger is CAUGHT.

    Using at least two eBay IDs, this person has done several questionable purchases, forgeries and re-sells; however, I am showing ONLY those fake patch cards that are bulletproof obvious. There are about a dozen other auctions we have been watching... waiting for forged versions to show up. In some cases, he bought, forged & sold the cards under the same user ID (hnic_787); in other cases, he sold under the second ID (kao_seneca), likely to try and cover some tracks. His note in his auctions at the bottom says “I am a new Ebay seller, but I am honest and will try my best to provide the best service possible. If you have any questions, please feel free to contact me, Bid with confidence! THANKS!” Honest, eh?

    eBay contact information for one of the usernames, provided by an HI member, shows his full name & address; the other is listed under another name. After being provided emails from two different HI members on two different occasions, we were able to source the IP addresses of both eBay IDs, which are identical. As well, those IP addresses are linked directly to an HI membership IP address. Interestingly, the cell phones linked to both members’ eBay accounts were registered at the same cell phone shop in downtown Toronto. Just another nail in the coffin.

    Here is the information we have to share:

    Some evidence showing the two eBay IDs are likely the same person. Notice the way these somewhat identical cards are detailed:

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=280320483252 “06/07 UD The CUP SIG AUTO/PATCH JEREMY ROENICK /75 5-CL”

    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=170329622285 “UD The CUP SIGNATURE AUTO/PATCH JEREMY ROENICK /75 5-CL”



    EVIDENCE:

    07/08 The Cup Limited Logos Evgeni Malkin 21/25
    Original Scan


    Link to Original eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220369075331

    Altered Scan


    Link to Altered eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/07-08-UD-The-CUP...mZ170329804511



    06/07 The Cup Rookie Patch/Auto Shea Weber 221/249
    Original Scan


    Link to Original eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=220363089710

    Altered Scan


    Link to Altered eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/06-UD-The-CUP-Ro...mZ170330830808



    07/08 The Cup Signature Patches Patrick Kane 31/75
    Original Scan


    Link to Original eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

    Altered Scan


    Link to Altered eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1



    06/07 The Cup Rookie Auto Patch Thomas Kopecky 146/249
    Original Scan


    Link to Original eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1

    Altered Scan


    Link to Altered eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1



    06/07 The Cup Rookie Auto Patch Nigel Dawes 211/249
    Original Scan


    Link to Original eBay Auction: eBay Item #150326457987 (too old to link to, but a copy of the eBay auction is on file)

    Altered Scan


    Link to Altered eBay Auction: http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...fvi%3D1&_rdc=1



    SOLD BY ANOTHER EBAY SELLER, BUT CONFIRMED THE CARD WAS PURCHASED FROM THIS PERSON PRIOR TO THIS SALE

    07/08 The Cup Limited Logos Patrice Bergeron 41/50
    Original Scan (zoomed in image provided from original seller)


    Link to Original eBay Auction, purchased by this person:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...m=190290449431

    Altered Scan


    Link to Altered eBay Auction:
    http://cgi.ebay.com/08-THE-CUP-P-Ber...mZ370193653533



    If any of you have been purchasers from either of these two eBay user IDs, please email me with the card scans and I can provide them to the appropriate parties. Thanks for the HI members who made most of these findings!!

    Bruce

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    holy crap...

    i was watching that weber..

    is it possible to see the picture of the weber before.. it`s invalid due to date...

    so basically, is he just cutting up jerseys and basically, cutting a pasting..

    this is unreal...

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    holy crap again, i was watching the goligoski and the yandle from the same guy

    http://cgi.ebay.ca/09-UD-ULTIMATE-DE...3%3A1|294%3A50

    http://cgi.ebay.ca/06-07-UD-THE-CUP-...3%3A1|294%3A50

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    Yeah I can see them all too.

    And the truth for me is, it makes me sick!
    Ruining a very nice Malkin and Kane, just for the extra "punch" for ebay.

    In 2009 and the future, the motto has to be two things. (for card collecting)
    -Double check everything you buy, anywhere.
    and...
    -If it is to good to be true, it is.

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    There is no history to show these as fakes... I'll research a little deeper, but he has had some real cards too. However, sometimes the original unaltered cards were bought at shows...

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    why is this guys feedback private... that would make me not even bid in the first place. This is rotten and disgusting.

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    why is this guys feedback private... that would make me not even bid in the first place. This is rotten and disgusting.

    We started sniffing around and asking questions... his feedback went from public to private about three days ago

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    hey, check this out... malkin limited logos..

    look closely at the patch border on this legit auction



    then closely at this fake:




    mind you, i am not familiar with the cup cards, but it looks like he put the border back on upside down...

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    I think that's just the scanner. The borders don't come off... he'd have to peel the entire face of the card off to get access to the patch.

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    Wow this is crazy he totally put that upside down great job whom ever nailed this guy!!

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