SCF Online Price Guide (OPG) First Look

[rksnascards]

I am highly impressed!

of course..it doesn't take much to impress me...lol

All joking aside...glad to see a price guide out there that will help everyone.

As soon as it is on line my "other price guide" will be going bye-bye!

[CSSports]

SWEET - Thanks to everyone involved for all your hard work....

[sholi2000]

Where do I sign up?

[mikesilvia]

Where do I sign up?

It will be available a FREE (for a limited time) to members soon based on rank. The 26th of July is the estimated release date (just before The Nationals.

[ellogovna*123]

I'd be more than willing to be a Guinea pig... :)

Looks awesome Mike.

[mjaneway]

looks great. will be a great asset to the site.

[barrow]

Looks great.

I have an interesting prediction. Recently we're hearing more and more that the true value of a card should be based on actual sell value data, not a book value from a price guide. That's the way the hobby is moving and with this SCF OPG it looks like sell value could definitely become the standard.

I'm wondering if once sell value becomes the standard, will there be a backlash against it the same way we're seeing a backlash against book values right now? Think about this. Everyone knows that the majority of cards sell for the most when they have recently come out, cards that sold a lot a few months after they come out could sell for a fraction of that a few years later.

See where I'm going with this? I think people are going to have a hard time accepting the fact the collection they're building now will have a much lower SV in the future, than it would have BV.

It really boggles my mind to think about the possibilities. Here's another one. Presuppose that all price guides not made from collected sale data are extinct, no BV. What would sell values look like? I know that a lot of buyers and sellers decide how much they want to pay or sell a card for by taking 30% of a book value. So without knowing the book values people would be paying how much they really want to spend on the card. Would that end up being more or less? Would the price of wax change too in response to this?

Thanks for having fun with me. There's a lot to think about and I think the majority of collectors who get into the BV vs SV argument don't think about any of it.

[mikesilvia]

I'm wondering if once sell value becomes the standard, will there be a backlash against it the same way we're seeing a backlash against book values right now? Think about this. Everyone knows that the majority of cards sell for the most when they have recently come out, cards that sold a lot a few months after they come out could sell for a fraction of that a few years later.

Sale value is much like a home, a car or anything else that sells. The value can go up and can go down. With book value, much of the pricing is an "estimate". With sale value there is a transaction on every value. So, a card doesn't go down if it holds its value. Mickey Mantle cards definitely hold their value is baseball as does Michael Jordan in basketball.

Personally, I hate seeing a card valued at $15 and only sells for $1 on eBay, SCF and other online places. If it sells for $1, how can the book value be $15? When you buy a car, the car depreciates so a decline in value is natural. But if it is in great condition and a classic it can go up in value if the demand is there. When you buy are sports card the value will appreciate or depreciate based on the supply and demand. If a player performs badly or does something stupid (Michael Vick) their card value will go down and quick. This OPG will track the value in as close to real time as possible!

[barrow]

Hey Mike, good talking to you!

I definitely agree with everything you're saying. But the fact remains that the VAST majority of cards that come out of a wax pack will not be solid as rock: Mantle, Jeter, Montana, etc, the cards that won't go down in value. The majority will be nice sell value in the beginning, and then will taper off as the product/player isn't new and hot.

I agree with you that the hobby will change forever. You'll never make your money back cracking wax. But at least collectors could feel good about BV's. Would collectors want to pay today's wax prices if the "value" of the cards will be even less in the years after you crack it now that SV is the standard than BV. Probably not. This could lead to the cost of wax going down. Which makes me think, is book value dictating the price of wax right now? Scandalous?

The hobby is changing and predicting a post-BV hobby is tricky.

[twotoekenn]

the only problem i see with sell value vs book value is in trading our cards. if the sell value goes down, trade value goes down. an example would be in the case of highend stuuf like the cup, boxes at 400-500 a piece. those cards should have a high value because they're that much of a financial hit. now when the sale trend comes out that 75% of the cards in the set sell on ebay for 20-30$ you could have a pack that you bought for 500 and can't get 100 in trade for.