More fake Racism

[jaybird_1981]

You said "the myth of rampant white racism." So either you think white racism itself doesn't exist, or you think it's all neatly sealed away in well-wrapped boxes at the bottoms of warehouses somewhere so far away that the term of your natural life would have ended before it would have been possible to bring them anywhere near you even with a spaceship capable of faster than light travel.

Here's a question for you, Sunny Jim: when somebody obsesses about racism all day, as you obviously do, what does that say about them?

I think the key word he used was "rampant".

[themanishere]

Just because it isn't as blatant anymore, doesn't mean "racism" [or whatever you want to call it] has ceased to exist or happen on a relatively widespread basis. Individual-to-individual racism has decreased by miles, but it still happens frequently on a more structural scale societally. Racism and discrimination are simply more covert, much of it institutionally. Which is the point that racism will persist as long as institutions which historically embodied/allowed biases as such continue (in housing, education, social services, etc). It isn't just a matter of time for "racism to go away." The structure of these institutions has to change - not simply how they function.

who cares what other people think

Everyone cares what everyone else thinks. Just like everyone will always be "racially biased" to some extent, everyone will always care to some extent what everyone else thinks.

[Alfordron]

Everyone cares what everyone else thinks. Just like everyone will always be "racially biased" to some extent, everyone will always care to some extent what everyone else thinks.[/quote]


Only in California, son.

[ensbergcollector]

Just because it isn't as blatant anymore, doesn't mean "racism" [or whatever you want to call it] has ceased to exist or happen on a relatively widespread basis. Individual-to-individual racism has decreased by miles, but it still happens frequently on a more structural scale societally. Racism and discrimination are simply more covert, much of it institutionally. Which is the point that racism will persist as long as institutions which historically embodied/allowed biases as such continue (in housing, education, social services, etc). It isn't just a matter of time for "racism to go away." The structure of these institutions has to change - not simply how they function.



Everyone cares what everyone else thinks. Just like everyone will always be "racially biased" to some extent, everyone will always care to some extent what everyone else thinks.

the very things you list as proof racism still exists, are the things that affirmative action allows to happen. Things don't cease to be racist if they are done to defend a certain race. The truth of the matter is, when a white male is turned down for a job or a promotion, that he has earned via test scores, interviews, or experience, simply because there is a racial quota to be met, the seeds of racism are planted.

[gsj68]

the very things you list as proof racism still exists, are the things that affirmative action allows to happen. Things don't cease to be racist if they are done to defend a certain race. The truth of the matter is, when a white male is turned down for a job or a promotion, that he has earned via test scores, interviews, or experience, simply because there is a racial quota to be met, the seeds of racism are planted.

[FootballCardFreak]

IMO, no one is racist, but everyone is scared that everyone else is racist against them which, in turn, makes them racist. Haha, follow that?

[dizzydolse]

[gatorboymike]

the very things you list as proof racism still exists, are the things that affirmative action allows to happen. Things don't cease to be racist if they are done to defend a certain race. The truth of the matter is, when a white male is turned down for a job or a promotion, that he has earned via test scores, interviews, or experience, simply because there is a racial quota to be met, the seeds of racism are planted.

You know what, I agree. Affirmative action is impractical because it's designed to treat the symptom, not the disease, and causes the whole body to suffer as a result. It's like running someone through with a sword and handing them a sponge to clean up the bloody floor.

I actually heard a friend of mine from high school use the N-word for the first time because an employer turned him down in favor of an AA hiree.

[mikesilvia]

Racism exists everywhere, but in America the white on minority racism is over reported and racism from other groups on whites is under reported.

For example, if a white male walks into a predominately black or Hispanic neighborhood and gets jumped it is called a crime. If a black male walks into a white neighborhood and the same thing happens there is a good chance it will go down as a hate crime and you will hear about it on the local and possible national news.

There are racists everywhere. When I was in Korea many of the South Koreas had lots of racial slurs for the Filipino community there. During my five years in Germany, many Germans were racist against the Turkish community. I've been to over 20 countries and I've yet to meet a race that didn't have their own racists or a country that didn't have race issues.

I'm a firm believer in racism breeds more racism. Meaning if one race is consistently attacked by another race the attacked race will become racists towards the attacking group. There are plenty of racists African Americans against whites. Their racists originals come from years and years of racism against them. Some are just racist because they blame whites for their problems regardless if they are truly the cause of their problems. 90% of African Americans voted for Obama and very little was said about it. What if 90% of white males/females had voted for McCain and McCain won the election?

While I do not believe Obama is the best person to be President, I think his election shows that America has moved past our major race issues and something to be proud of as an American. President Obama simply couldn't have been elected if America was a racists country. There is NO WAY a minority gets elected in most other countries to include South Korea, Japan, Germany, France and England. I'm not saying those countries are racists, I'm just pointing out that America has evolved to the point where a minority can be elected to our most prominent positions and that is not true for most other countries.

Do you think a Filipino could be elected President in South Korea? A Jewish person elected in Iran? A Turk in Germany? A Muslim in France or England? Maybe someday, but not anytime soon!

[Titantron]

"You know what, I agree. Affirmative action is impractical because it's designed to treat the symptom, not the disease, and causes the whole body to suffer as a result. It's like running someone through with a sword and handing them a sponge to clean up the bloody floor.

I actually heard a friend of mine from high school use the N-word for the first time because an employer turned him down in favor of an AA hiree.

It alsocreates problems for anyone who wasnt an AA hiree. When they make a job change or apply for a higher position in a different unit of a company, it creates a different form of racism towards minorities based on the actual system itself. An employer may wonder if a minority is reallly as qualified as their resume suggests. were they proped up to and through college based on race, were they hired to the previous jobs based on race? are their evaluations less critical because the supervisor was affraid of the backlash? Nobody knows. There is always doubt, perhaps even by the person themselves.