Horrible Matt Ryan Fake!

[hockeyfan1208]

the sad thing about that manning is that anyone who is even remotely familiar with that product should know that isnt real, yet it went for 80 bucks

thats exactly what i thought when i saw it, i feel bad for whoever bought it but come on, have a little common sense. Based on what I've seen seems like everything this seller sells is fakes, disgusting.

[tboculosis]

That's horrendous.

[travlncard]

the sad thing about that manning is that anyone who is even remotely familiar with that product should know that isnt real, yet it went for 80 bucks

so let me get this straight... your basically blaming the buyers! lol

yet this card has all the makings of an authentic piece... a sticker auto, a serial number, i mean if your a buyer whos not on this site... whos to say you can tell that aint real! i mean if people werent in here saying that isnt real, you probably would have never known... it took me a good second look to realize that auto was written by a 5 year old

all im sayin is you cant hardly blame the buyers when these ™™™™s sit around comin up with better and better ways to make a fake! you do realize its to the point now where they are forging signatures on the band aid stickers!! i mean pretty soon, there will be a guy who brings a card into a printing company and says i want 100 of this same card... and there gonna do it!

You know if that card is not really an autograph version, the back is gonna say congrats you just received an authentic patch card.... well if thats the case, the buyer has a cut and dry case with paypal!

whatever ill stop here... stupid people drive me nutz!

[hockeyfan1208]

personally, im not blaming the buyer here, i feel bad for them but this seller clearly deals fakes, i mean look at her other items listed now while you're at it.

all i meant was, if i want to buy something that expensive, ill do my homework on the card, and the seller for that matter. did not mean to come off as insensitive for agreeing, haha.

[travlncard]

right on, yeah i do agree with you about the doin your homework part... like look at this at this was like a 2 minute search
P.Manning Ud Heroes Patch
http://cgi.ebay.com/2008-UD-PEYTON-M...d=p3286.c0.m14
P.Manning Heroes Jersey Auto
http://cgi.ebay.com/2008-UD-HEROES-J...d=p3286.c0.m14


but now, the puzzling thing to me is this... she doesnt list the year, and im not too framiluar with that product, but when i look in the beckett under 08 Ud Heroes theres an Autograph Jersey #'d/15 and patch variation to /5 so it clearly cant be that cause it would be #'d/5 being the patch card... and theres no straight up patch card in 2008

hold on im gonna go check my Beckett OPG and see what they say there

[wheeler281]

so let me get this straight... your basically blaming the buyers! lol

yet this card has all the makings of an authentic piece... a sticker auto, a serial number, i mean if your a buyer whos not on this site... whos to say you can tell that aint real! i mean if people werent in here saying that isnt real, you probably would have never known... it took me a good second look to realize that auto was written by a 5 year old

all im sayin is you cant hardly blame the buyers when these ™™™™s sit around comin up with better and better ways to make a fake! you do realize its to the point now where they are forging signatures on the band aid stickers!! i mean pretty soon, there will be a guy who brings a card into a printing company and says i want 100 of this same card... and there gonna do it!

You know if that card is not really an autograph version, the back is gonna say congrats you just received an authentic patch card.... well if thats the case, the buyer has a cut and dry case with paypal!

whatever ill stop here... stupid people drive me nutz!

You do drive me nutz you are right there

[travlncard]

Ok so i checked the OPG and heres what i come up with, and i think this is the forged card turned into an auto... im not sure if you can see this first link, its Manning UD Heroes on beckett database...

http://beta.beckett.com/NavView/Nav.aspx?Ntt=peyton%20manning%20heroes&N=0&Ntx=mod e+matchall&No=100&Ntk=Default

but this here is the actual card i suspect the 18/25 to be
http://beta.beckett.com/item/6639932...ing/?tab=Price

[bigpocket]

Hero's usally never use sticker auto's that why I usally buy them I hate sticker auto's. I mean there nothing sweeter than these cards.





HEHE sorry I like to show off!!!!!