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09-04-2009, 02:24 AM #1
Vagueness
Not necessary new to sports card forum, forums (virtual and physical), or sports cards, I've seen a growing trend in the way business is conducted. Gone are the days of price haggling, gone are the days of supply and demand. Gone are the days of Barter.
Sites like Ebay have truly ruined the art of sports card collecting. True, Ebay has made Sports cards that were previously difficult to find (I.E. anything before 1980's) more available. But this has also had an adverse effect on the game.
Growing up i always collected the originals sports cards, baseball cards. I've never thought less of other sports cards, but i've always loved originals. One of the great aspects of card trading was the one on one value. "I'll trade you my Topps Barry Bonds for your UD Sammy Sosa," "How about your Barry Bonds for a Mark Mcgwire instead?" "deal!" This was the sort of trading that I grew up on.
In the communication age the only counter-weight to the evils of Ebay are Pioneers like SCF.
My brother once told me (and i'm sure most of you will agree) "that a sports card is only worth what someone is willing to pay for it." He was referring to the 'Book Value' of cards. Every year it seams that BV and AV (actual value) becoming increasingly seperated. Is this because Beckets is overestimeting the demand for cards or because supplies of cards has changed?
Whatever the case is, the trading of sports cards has decayed from a hobby of collectors, traders and baseball fans, to a business for the lame capitalists
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09-04-2009, 03:39 AM #2
i have said time and time again, bv is a thing of the past. EBAY is the new beckett, EBAY is the new BV or a better representation is not BV but CV (Current Value) because why would i trade some one for example $80.00 bv of cards (because beckett onlien says thats the BV) when i can go on EBAY and but that same card for $10.00?
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09-04-2009, 09:23 AM #3
I don't think BV is necessarily a thing of the past, I just think there needs to be a new, more accurate "book." I think the idea of a price guide is still very valid, you can tell by the way people check completed listings on eBay, that is their guide for prices. Now if there was only a price guide that was based on eBay and other outlet sales directly...oh wait...SCF OPG coming to your comp soon!
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09-04-2009, 10:39 AM #4
AMEN!
Let's just settle this this once and for all :)
Let's banish all forms of value, and say a card is worth what someone pays it at any given time. Banish "what it's been selling for".
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09-04-2009, 03:18 PM #5
I stopped consulting price guides years ago and concentrated on ebay market data tools like terapeak and priceminer. However, I still respect those collectors who rely on traditional price guides, especially since they are usually much cheaper than these online tools.
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09-04-2009, 10:03 PM #6
I think Beckett is still relevant. I think 1 reason that beckett and Ebay do not match up is b/c people will look their card up in beckett, and then say, "I'm selling this card for 1/2 of beckett pricing." Like they are having a Sale to get rid of their cards. I think if Beckett listed a card at $100, and then followed it on ebay, and saw it was selling for $45 on average, then in their next issue had its value at $45 then the card would start selling for alot less. Just my opinon.
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