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09-07-2009, 02:04 PM #31
agree they already print money with casino's, use that money to set up programs themselves. This is discusting. How can anyone defend this? Enough is enough. These so called tribes can intgrate back into society if they wish. Instead they beat a dead horse and want the govt. to pay. The victim card has long been expired so get a job and stop blaming the white man.
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09-07-2009, 02:29 PM #32
You want to throw money at American Indians to say sorry for something that happened 300 years ago. No one on the face of the earth was alive then. That's not my responsibility to pay for the transgressions of others. It's not yours either. I could have just much American Indian blood in me as some of the people I'd be paying. It's ridiculous. It's not progressive. It's a slap-in-the-face apology for something neither we did nor they were harmed from.
If you want to say it's a chain reaction, then we ALL deserve reparations for wrongs in the past that have left us where we are today.
How much money should go to each American Indian, do you think?
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09-07-2009, 02:40 PM #33
i think you are missing his point...it has nothing to do with a dollar amount...even just a formal acknowledgement from the government that the people who founded this nation hundreds of years ago committed some terrible acts would probably be enough
i agree with you that cutting a check would do no good, and if they did cut a check, i'd have no idea who would qualify or why they would qualify....but i also agree with dfr's point about holding governments accountable for their actions
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09-07-2009, 04:41 PM #34
I think its hard to quantify an amt. owed but providing continued assistance isn't too much to ask considering the damage that has been done.
Thanks Red, and I agree its about accepting responsiblity and doing something about it.
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09-07-2009, 07:48 PM #35
I already made her a set. The point is simple: the government, for whatever reason--be it stupid or generous--chose to develop tribal insurance. If the funds are exhausted, then they need to replenish them. Plain and simple.
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09-07-2009, 07:53 PM #36
As a side note, I don't hear anyone whining about churches and other faith-based organizations receiving $100,000,000 in stimulus funding. Seems a bit more alarming than $3,000,000 for Native Americans...
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09-08-2009, 04:25 PM #37
Keep up with your "current" events, Red. Congress did just that two years ago.
http://brownback.senate.gov/pressapp....cfm?id=274116
Now, I want you and dfr52 to apologize to me for my pain and suffering.
edit:
Sorry, just wanted to gloat a bit more at how I totally destroyed y'all's arguments! BAM!
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09-09-2009, 04:41 AM #38
Holding governments responsible, through hindsight, only perpetuates the false idea of accountability here. Were they "governments" when they committed those acts? No, and as such, even the functioning of the government to exempt Native Americans is dysfunctional. You cannot project ideals of advanced civilization/government on the systems and events of hundreds of years ago, and materialize policies on that basis today. This is because the effects borne of guilt for the past system do not bear as such on the current system, precisely because there is nothing de facto about it (as opposed to, IMO, still existent, de facto discrimination).
And yes, the money going to churches and faith-based organizations is appalling. But that is more socially acceptable, which precludes much, if any, widespread dissent.
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09-09-2009, 06:17 AM #39
hahahaha to funny reading all these post.
I wouldnt give them a dime and who really cares what happend a 100 years ago all my family from a 100 years ago is dead and gone to..There are a nuff people in the USA who cry about this and that if they dont like it here go some where else.Thats are tax money you know ARE USA TAX DOLLARS.
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09-09-2009, 07:56 AM #40
Thank-you very much for posting, I'm glad the government is acknowledging their responsibility for nearly destroying the the native inhabitants of this country. By continuing to support the tribes hopefully they can " resolve many challenges" they still face.
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