Print run for UFC Topp 2009 - Hobby & Retail

[mkygod]

Anyone know the print run for these boxes?

I've done some preliminary calculations and estimated them to be ~14,800 boxes for Hobby, and 7750 for Retail.

I got these numbers by looking the exclusive card type for each set. Hobby has the #/25 dual mat cards and #/25 auto ultimate gear cards, and the Retail has the #/88 base parallel Bronze cards.

The basic formula I came up was:

Pack odds / Packs per box * (number produced * cards in series)

So for a fairly rare card like the Dual mats which are 25 produced, 4 cards in the series, with pack odds of 1:1900 packs, the calculations would be

1900/16*(25*5) = 14,843 boxes or 1,237 cases

I've done the same calculations with the Ultimate gear autos and came up with a similar number of 14,765 boxes.

I'm not a math guy, so let me know if any of you can confirm or refute my findings. Thanks

[windmortal]

Wow. Looks good to me!

[gregstarling]

That means the gold parallel is much easier to obtain in this version compared to round 1. I took your math at 14,800 boxes = 207,200 packs with gold cards in them (assuming 2 packs / box do not contain gold cards) = 1,381 gold sets

in round 1 there were something like 432.

BTW, I'm new here and will be looking to trade once I bust my 3 round 2 boxes. I understand I'll have to send first with you guys. My eBay ID is liquidstar and my user name at psacard.com is gstarling if you want to look up my reputation.

[mkygod]

I think you are correct in your assumption of ~1,381 gold sets. I bought a case and was almost able to finish a complete gold set, plus a handful of extras. So the number of gold cards should be somewhere close to the number of cases.

BTW, You won't have to send first with me. I'm still under 10 trades, so that rule doesn't apply (yet). Let me know what you break outta that box.

I'm specifically looking for any mat relics and gold parallels that i dont have.

[pbnjsportscards]

Nice Math, but I wonder what the odds will be of getting any pulls out of the Retail boxes?
I know it won't matter for the /25 cards you used for your numbers.

Anybody have a retail pack? Or Box?

[mkygod]

I got this from the buymmacards.com forum:

Retail pack odds

1:6 poster, Photo, Bloodlines
1:12 Octagon, Greats of Game
1:14 Bronze Base Parallel (only in retail)
1:18 Silver Base Parallel
1:415 Ruby Base Parallel
1:3300 Diamond Base Parallel

1:76 Onyx Insert Parallel
1:825 Ruby Insert Parallel
1:6800 Diamond Insert Parallel

Fighter/Personality Autos
1:3700 Group A (Gsp, Couture, A Silva, Lesnar, Gracie, Sanchez)
1:1700 Group B (Vera, Nogueira, Penn, Forrest, Buffer, Jackson, Mir, Stitch, Kongo, W Silva Machida, Gonzaga, Bisping, Florian, Guida, Horich
1:340 Group C (Carwin, Miletich, Hendo, Kang, Hamill)
1:165 Group D (Ciesolevicz, Arianny, Fitch, Koscheck, Kampmann, D Miller, J Miller,Cramer,Franklin)
1:252 Group E (Efrain, J Jones, Amir, D Hardy)
1:183 Group F (Bader, Alves, Dollaway, Marcus Davis)
1:6400 Bloodlines Auto
1:9500 Octagon of Honor Auto

Fight Mat Relics
1:4600 Group A (Guida, D Miller)
1:2700 Group B (A Johnson, A Silva, Lytle, GSP, Koscheck, Rashad)
1:365 Group C (Cote, Mir, Hughes, Sanchez, Neer, Florian, Quarry)
1:635 Group D (Penn, Pulver)
1:386 Group E (Franklin, W Silva, Maynard, Jardine, Marquardt)
1:385 Group F (Machida, Tyson)
1:395 Group G (Liddell, Forrest, Sherk)
Gold Fight Mat
1:3200 Group A Gold Mat
1:283 Group B Gold Mat
1:426 Onyx Mat
1:2325 Ruby Mat
1:18500 Diamond Mat

1:425 Ult Gear

[LKK66]

I have busted about 9 boxes so far and have a hobby case arriving thursday maybe friday.. cant wait to bust. I have not got a great auto yet just a Buffer Red which is probably the worst but I did pull a Diamond Mat relic of F. Griffin

[midwestmmafan]

So how many total bronze sets are there?

[mkygod]

The bronze are #/88, so there are 88 bronze sets

[midwestmmafan]

Here's another math question? So if we know the print run numbers and the stated odds below is there a way to figure out how many auto graphs of each fighter?? I don't remember where to saw this before but someone figured out how many autos for each fighter for round 1. First one to figure it out and PM me will with the formula in basic terms with the answers I will mail you one base card from round one. your choice GSP, Silva, Lesnar, Gracie or Machida. Or any other I just know I have those. Thanks DW

Group A (1:323): Georges St-Pierre, Randy Couture, Anderson Silva, Brock Lesnar, Royce Gracie, Diego Sanchez



Group B (1:56): Brandon Vera, Antonio Rodrigo Nogueira, BJ Penn, Forrest Griffin,Bruce Buffer, Quinton Jackson, Frank Mir, Jacob "Stitch" Duran,Cheick Kongo, Wanderlei Silva, Lyoto Machida, Gabriel Gonzaga, Michael Bisping,Kenny Florian, Clay Guida, Matt Horwich



Group C (1:52): Shane Carwin, Pat Miletich, Dan Henderson, Denis Kang, MattHamill



Group D (1:32): Matt Ciesnolevicz, Arianny Celeste, Jon Fitch, Josh Koscheck,Martin Kampmann, Dan Miller, Jim Miller, Dan Cramer, Rich Franklin



Group E (1:55): Efrain Escudero, Jon Jones, Amir Sadollah, Dan Hardy



Group F (1:38 ): Ryan Bader, Thiago Alves, CB Dollaway, Marcus Davis