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    Tell that to the Tea Partiers and conservative Christians out there saying "This is a Christian nation, and Obama can't be president because he's a Muslim."

    The problem is that is their right to think that way... If someone gets voted in who thinks that way they obviously got more votes or are a better cheater than the other person... Just like Obama is in right now... people dont agree with him but at voting time more people thought he was right for the job than anyone else who was running so he wins. If i want to read bible verses at rallys and claim to heal people by the grace of god... If I win an election obviously more than half the people (that voted) would say I am best for the job.... I know that whole thing didnt make a whole lot of sense but I have a headache and will come back later to clear it up when I dont...

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    For people like him, "open-minded" means being as much of an ultra-conservative militant Christian fundamentalist extremist as he is.

    And if the "open-minded" Christians feel perfectly justified in not voting for Obama because they think he's a Muslim, they have no grounds to attack atheists for not voting for Bachmann because she's an ultra-conservative militant Christian fundamentalist extremist.


    I'm not even an atheist but I want to give a +1 and an amen to my main man Gatorboymike.
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    I'm not even an atheist but I want to give a +1 and an amen to my main man Gatorboymike.

    And at least we know 1 of those descriptions is true.. see post #1

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    I can they are called dittoheads/freepers/ and what ever beck followers call themselves these days...Oh wait I know Cancelled

    So you would vote for someone who is devoutly religious? Or is that just a double-standard that you hoped would be overlooked?

    If someone votes for a person based on religion it is no more of a dittohead/freeper move than not voting for someone because of religion.

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    So you would vote for someone who is devoutly religious? Or is that just a double-standard that you hoped would be overlooked?

    If someone votes for a person based on religion it is no more of a dittohead/freeper move than not voting for someone because of religion.


    As far as me personally I would not let a canidates religion or lack of one determine who I am voting for. A canidate could have the same religious views as I but could still be a complete jerk. When I vote I am more concerned with the real issues not how they worship God in the privacy and comfort of their own chosen house or worship.
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    For people like him, "open-minded" means being as much of an ultra-conservative militant Christian fundamentalist extremist as he is.

    And if the "open-minded" Christians feel perfectly justified in not voting for Obama because they think he's a Muslim, they have no grounds to attack atheists for not voting for Bachmann because she's an ultra-conservative militant Christian fundamentalist extremist.

    You know Mike, I have been in the PR forum for quite a while and have noticed a pattern with you. You never miss a chance to attack Christians, Christianity or to label someone a Christian and then attack them based on your assigned label. In contrast, you never, ever attack Judaism or Islam or Hinduism, just Christianity.

    A few definitions for you from Webster's..

    Atheist: one who believes that there is no deity.

    Bigot: a person who is obstinately or intolerantly devoted to his or her own opinions and prejudices; especially: one who regards or treats the members of a group with hatred and intolerance.


    Atheism is not about attacking Christians or any other specific religious group, it is a belief that there is no deity. Attacking a specific religious group solely based on their religion is not atheism, it is bigotry.

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    As far as me personally I would not let a canidates religion or lack of one determine who I am voting for. A canidate could have the same religious views as I but could still be a complete jerk. When I vote I am more concerned with the real issues not how they worship God in the privacy and comfort of their own chosen house or worshil.

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    Religion is the last thing on my mind when I vote for someone. I could care less what god they pray to (if they pray at all) as long as they can do the job well. I am fine with whatever personal religious choices they make if they can balance the budget, reduce the deficit, bring home the troops, lower taxes and fix the economy.

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    +1

    Religion is the last thing on my mind when I vote for someone. I could care less what god they pray to (if they pray at all) as long as they can do the job well. I am fine with whatever personal religious choices they make if they can balance the budget, reduce the deficit, bring home the troops, lower taxes and fix the economy.


    Isn't that what we all want regardless of the political party?

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    Isn't that what we all want regardless of the political party?

    Not all of us. There are many who clearly place religous beliefs above all else.

    My parents are both in their late 70's and are as old-school as it gets and would never vote for someone who publicly proclaimed being an atheist or Muslim.

    By the same measure, there are people like gatorboymike and redsoxx11 who would not vote for someone who proudly professed their religious beliefs (I digress, GBM would vote for them as long as they are not Christian).

    Backwards thinking is everywhere.

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    You know Mike, I have been in the PR forum for quite a while and have noticed a pattern with you. You never miss a chance to attack Christians, Christianity or to label someone a Christian and then attack them based on your assigned label. In contrast, you never, ever attack Judaism or Islam or Hinduism, just Christianity.

    Well then you haven't been paying attention because I've attacked Islam too. But you see, there's a very good reason I attack Christianity the most: because I live in the USA, and Christianity has every bit as much of a noxious and nightmarish deathgrip on the USA as Islam has on places like Saudi Arabia and Iran.

    Atheism is not about attacking Christians or any other specific religious group, it is a belief that there is no deity. Attacking a specific religious group solely based on their religion is not atheism, it is bigotry.

    So you want me to own up to being a bigot? Sure, I'll admit that. Now you admit it too. You say you wouldn't vote for somebody based solely on their religion? I don't believe you. That's the only thing most conservative Christians care about.

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