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[habsheaven]

A little further expansion on where my "misleading" idea that Obama has hurt American companies with his international trade deals and policies.

A part of Obama's ARRA package included the "Buy America" provision which required that all government ARRA contracts use American made products for construction. Sounds good. Then the Canadians complained. It seems that if our contractors bought American made products then it would hurt the Canadian economy (NAFTA anyone?). So Obama did the right thing and signed an exemption agreement that protected the Canadian businesses and economy.

So let me make sure I clarify for those who miss the obvious...

A portion of ARRA funds, which are supposed to help America recover (American Recovery & Reinvestment Act) are actually being used to buy Canadian products and support the Canadian economy thanks to Obama's pacifying exemption.

Here I go again. You mention NAFTA, so you must know that the ARRA is a direct violation of the terms of NAFTA. Obama had no other choice but to pacify the Canadians with an exemption. Or are you saying Americans should DISHONOUR their agreements?

[bud7562]

At 8.00 an hour you probably shouldn't have a house. Raise the taxes of all the corporations and lmk what happens. Some things need to change, I agree. But probably not what you are suggesting.

i was makeing over 19.00 an hr. show me a job that pays that much, working in a factor ?????

[habsheaven]

I am fully aware that NAFTA and China are not related. You came up with that all on your own. I never said that.

If you actually read my post instead of doing the GBM thing and stop twisting what people say into something they didn't say then you would see that.

I read your post. Perhaps you need to learn to express your ideas more clearly. Anyone who doesn't know what NAFTA is, would think that the three; NAFTA, CHINA and the DEMOCRATIC presidents are all connected. That was your implication.

[duane1969]

And that is ONE of the reasons why America is where it's at right now. Because people don't see the problem with outsourcing jobs...my conversation about this is over...

I see the problem as far as how it impacts our economy. I am sorry if I upset you but the reality is that it is contradictory to our government and society to start dictating who companies have to hire.

The government already dictates wages. You want them to dictate who to hire. In a few years they start dictating who the companies can sell to and how much they can charge for their products, after that they set an allowable profit margin and take anything that is earned over the permitted margin (on top of taxing what was permitted). At what point does the government's power become too much?

Does nobody else besides me take issue with the government having it's hands in everything?

[AUTaxMan]

I see the problem as far as how it impacts our economy. I am sorry if I upset you but the reality is that it is contradictory to our government and society to start dictating who companies have to hire.

The government already dictates wages. You want them to dictate who to hire. In a few years they start dictating who the companies can sell to and how much they can charge for their products, after that they set an allowable profit margin and take anything that is earned over the permitted margin (on top of taxing what was permitted). At what point does the government's power become too much?

Does nobody else besides me take issue with the government having it's hands in everything?

Yes. Our country was founded on the principle that the government's role in everyday life should be limited to the smallest extent possible. Unfortunately, the liberals over the past 150 years have perverted and ignored this original intent to the greatest extent possible.

[duane1969]

I read your post. Perhaps you need to learn to express your ideas more clearly. Anyone who doesn't know what NAFTA is, would think that the three; NAFTA, CHINA and the DEMOCRATIC presidents are all connected. That was your implication.

I am not implying diddly, it is fact.

NAFTA - Clinton signed it into law and considers it his first major accomplishment as president
China most favored nation - Clinton proposed it to Congress and fought for it

I am confused as to how you think they are not connected to Democratic a president...

[duane1969]

Yes. Our country was founded on the principle that the government's role in everyday life should be limited to the smallest extent possible. Unfortunately, the liberals over the past 150 years have perverted and ignored this original intent to the greatest extent possible.

I am not going to put that on liberals. There are plenty of ways that conservatives have taken away freedoms and imposed themselves into situations.

[AUTaxMan]

I am not going to put that on liberals. There are plenty of ways that conservatives have taken away freedoms and imposed themselves into situations.

You should put it largely on the liberals. Sure, republicans have somewhat contributed to this over time, but it's not even close to a 50/50 split. More like 90/10.

[habsheaven]

I am not implying diddly, it is fact.

NAFTA - Clinton signed it into law and considers it his first major accomplishment as president
China most favored nation - Clinton proposed it to Congress and fought for it

I am confused as to how you think they are not connected to Democratic a president...

NAFTA was a sweet deal for the Americans so I am not surprised that Clinton tried to take credit for it. Fact remains, almost all of the negotiations were done during the Bush presidency. Bush signed the deal with Mulroney (Canadian PM) and the Mexican president of the day before Clinton came into office.

[mrveggieman]

You should put it largely on the liberals. Sure, republicans have somewhat contributed to this over time, but it's not even close to a 50/50 split. More like 90/10.

Wow mrtaxman you sound like an nba owner.