Why Tim Tebow is great

[AUTaxMan]

then mrv starting asking for proof to substantiate opinions.

[mrveggieman]

Ah, so I didn't miss much

Just a typical day in to world of P&R. It sure makes the work day go by faster.

[andrewhoya]

Just a typical day in to world of P&R. It sure makes the work day go by faster.

If only I could log on during my Calc and History classes

[mrveggieman]

then mrv starting asking for proof to substantiate opinions.

Prior to that mrtaxman's lil buddy sanfran22 once again made an outlandish claim that he couldn't prove.

[andrewhoya]

I feel like the debate could start again right before my eyes

[mrveggieman]

If only I could log on during my Calc and History classes

History was one of my favorite classes in high school. That's why I'm always on P&R.

[AUTaxMan]

History was one of my favorite classes in high school. That's why I'm always on P&R.

Prove that history was one of your favorite classes.

[Hilfiger1975]

Prove that history was one of your favorite classes.

I C Wut U Did Thar!

He could always say, "Prove to me i need to prove it to you!"

[ensbergcollector]

Prior to that mrtaxman's lil buddy sanfran22 once again made an outlandish claim that he couldn't prove.

i love that you claim to be a christian but when someone posts something that is a basic tenant of christianity you call it outlandish.

[gatorboymike]

I do not respect any religion. I respect your right to have your religious beliefs, but I don't respect your religious beliefs themselves. And for anyone to demand that their religious beliefs be respected is ludicrous, dishonest, manipulative and insulting, and will be met with deliberate and well-deserved disrespect. What would you think of me if I told you that I define my self-worth and my understanding of the world by the idea that Jupiter is home to a colony of flying pink chihuahuas? And then I demanded that you tell me that I deserve praise and commendation for my belief in flying pink chihuahuas, that my belief in flying pink chihuahuas is totally awesome and worthy of admiration?

Theists can't have their cake and eat it too. They want to be thought of as above criticism because their beliefs are opinions, and opinions can't be true or false. But at the same time, they insist their beliefs are facts, and that their beliefs and opinions represent literal, historic, real-world factual events that actually happened or are happening or will happen. No. You don't get it both ways.

If you want to reduce Christians vs. Muslims vs. atheists vs. whatever to the level of chocolate vs. vanilla, fine. But understand that once you do, you lose the right to demand that everyone fall in line with you, because opinions are subjective and the only person who values your opinion is you. And you lose any ground upon which to argue why anyone else should join your religion, other than that you like it. People who like chocolate ice cream aren't out there proselytizing the Cocoa Testament to the Vanillist heathens, telling them that unless they give their money and obedience to Pastor Hershey of the First Church of Chocula, they'll be burned alive in a lake of hot fudge forever and ever after they die.

But on the other hand, if you want to insist that your beliefs are objectively, literally true, then you lose the right to sidestep the burden of proof. "We don't offer proof! We're above proof! You can't ask us to substantiate our outrageous, Dr. Seuss-esque claims! You just have to take our word for it, and if you don't, we'll hurt you." Sorry, Charlie. You make factual claims, you provide real evidence. Unless you really can't tell the difference between "I like X" and "X is true."