Why Tim Tebow is great

[Hilfiger1975]

I do not respect any religion. I respect your right to have your religious beliefs, but I don't respect your religious beliefs themselves. And for anyone to demand that their religious beliefs be respected is ludicrous, dishonest, manipulative and insulting, and will be met with deliberate and well-deserved disrespect. What would you think of me if I told you that I define my self-worth and my understanding of the world by the idea that Jupiter is home to a colony of flying pink chihuahuas? And then I demanded that you tell me that I deserve praise and commendation for my belief in flying pink chihuahuas, that my belief in flying pink chihuahuas is totally awesome and worthy of admiration?

Theists can't have their cake and eat it too. They want to be thought of as above criticism because their beliefs are opinions, and opinions can't be true or false. But at the same time, they insist their beliefs are facts, and that their beliefs and opinions represent literal, historic, real-world factual events that actually happened or are happening or will happen. No. You don't get it both ways.

If you want to reduce Christians vs. Muslims vs. atheists vs. whatever to the level of chocolate vs. vanilla, fine. But understand that once you do, you lose the right to demand that everyone fall in line with you, because opinions are subjective and the only person who values your opinion is you. And you lose any ground upon which to argue why anyone else should join your religion, other than that you like it. People who like chocolate ice cream aren't out there proselytizing the Cocoa Testament to the Vanillist heathens, telling them that unless they give their money and obedience to Pastor Hershey of the First Church of Chocula, they'll be burned alive in a lake of hot fudge forever and ever after they die.

But on the other hand, if you want to insist that your beliefs are objectively, literally true, then you lose the right to sidestep the burden of proof. "We don't offer proof! We're above proof! You can't ask us to substantiate our outrageous, Dr. Seuss-esque claims! You just have to take our word for it, and if you don't, we'll hurt you." Sorry, Charlie. You make factual claims, you provide real evidence. Unless you really can't tell the difference between "I like X" and "X is true."

Do you jump from buildings with a parachute, too? Because you take everything to the extreme...read your first paragraph to yourself...

[sanfran22]

Your buddy sanfran22 came out and called islam a false religion. He has nothing to prove it false only his personal opinions.

Actually, if you believe in the Bible (which I think you said you do), then it's pretty evident that Islam, or any other religion that does not teach salvation through Christ, is a false religion.

[gatorboymike]

Do you jump from buildings with a parachute, too? Because you take everything to the extreme...read your first paragraph to yourself...

[Hilfiger1975]

Cute picture, did you color it, too?

[ensbergcollector]

I do not respect any religion. I respect your right to have your religious beliefs, but I don't respect your religious beliefs themselves. And for anyone to demand that their religious beliefs be respected is ludicrous, dishonest, manipulative and insulting, and will be met with deliberate and well-deserved disrespect. What would you think of me if I told you that I define my self-worth and my understanding of the world by the idea that Jupiter is home to a colony of flying pink chihuahuas? And then I demanded that you tell me that I deserve praise and commendation for my belief in flying pink chihuahuas, that my belief in flying pink chihuahuas is totally awesome and worthy of admiration?

Theists can't have their cake and eat it too. They want to be thought of as above criticism because their beliefs are opinions, and opinions can't be true or false. But at the same time, they insist their beliefs are facts, and that their beliefs and opinions represent literal, historic, real-world factual events that actually happened or are happening or will happen. No. You don't get it both ways.

If you want to reduce Christians vs. Muslims vs. atheists vs. whatever to the level of chocolate vs. vanilla, fine. But understand that once you do, you lose the right to demand that everyone fall in line with you, because opinions are subjective and the only person who values your opinion is you. And you lose any ground upon which to argue why anyone else should join your religion, other than that you like it. People who like chocolate ice cream aren't out there proselytizing the Cocoa Testament to the Vanillist heathens, telling them that unless they give their money and obedience to Pastor Hershey of the First Church of Chocula, they'll be burned alive in a lake of hot fudge forever and ever after they die.

But on the other hand, if you want to insist that your beliefs are objectively, literally true, then you lose the right to sidestep the burden of proof. "We don't offer proof! We're above proof! You can't ask us to substantiate our outrageous, Dr. Seuss-esque claims! You just have to take our word for it, and if you don't, we'll hurt you." Sorry, Charlie. You make factual claims, you provide real evidence. Unless you really can't tell the difference between "I like X" and "X is true."

i am starting to think you are the best example of your own faith quote posted in the other thread.

[gatorboymike]

i am starting to think you are the best example of your own faith quote posted in the other thread.

Can you prove that?

[spuds1961]

And to think this all started for someone praising Tebow and his religious beliefs,Thanks Brian.I find it entertaining and there is no proof,but I would love to see gbm's flying pink chihauhas on jupiter,now to me that would be entertaining.

[mrveggieman]

Prove that history was one of your favorite classes.

Because I was able to copy off of your homework.

[mrveggieman]

Actually, if you believe in the Bible (which I think you said you do), then it's pretty evident that Islam, or any other religion that does not teach salvation through Christ, is a false religion.

I've read the bible several times and no where is islam mentioned. The bible speaks on it's own merits. It is not concerned about islam and neither should you.

[mrveggieman]

Let me call out all of my self appointed religious experts. Prove to me that the atheist god the flying spaghetti monster is not real.