Kosher Cheesburgers

[mrveggieman]

I was just messing around online and found this article. I know that we have a couple of jews on here but most of them stay out of P&R (you can't blame them with some of the knuckleheads on here). If any of them or anyone else want to respond to this feel free. We can also discuss why do most christians (except for seven day adventists) chose to ignore the dietary laws as perscribed in leviticus.

http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/...riligeous.html

[ensbergcollector]

I am on my phone but most christians ignore the.dietary laws because god, through a conversation with peter, overturns the old testament dietary laws.

[gatorboymike]

Jesus also said "I came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it." It's funny how Christians read that and say "See, he abolished the law!" There are no exceptions, no conditions, no caveats in that statement.

[PDawson21]

In a short and simple statement, the Old Testament is the Old Covenant, and the New Testament is the New Covenant. The same reason we don't do sacrifices anymore, Jesus paid the price.

[gatorboymike]

LOL. You have to love the approach Christians take to the Old Testament. "All the parts I don't like, all the parts that tell me to do stuff that I don't wanna do, and all the parts that don't make God look marketable to a present-day consumer...those parts are all figurative, metaphorical and/or intended only for one specific group of people in one specific place in the world at once specific time in history. But all the parts of the Old Testament that I do like, THOSE parts are all literal, historically accurate and meant to apply to everyone, everywhere, forever, whether they like it or not and whether they even know it or not."

Guess what, Sunny Jim? The creation story that you people have wasted billions of dollars and millions of hours trying to force into public schools is in the Old Testament. The Ten Commandments that you people have wasted billions of dollars and millions of hours trying to force into government buildings are in the Old Testament. The Noah's Ark myth that you people have wasted billions of dollars and millions of hours trying to claim is scientifically and historically accurate is in the Old Testament. And the part where it says you should execute homosexuals that you people have wasted billions of dollars and millions of hours trying to get into the US Constitution is in the Old Testament. And since most Christians have never read the Bible, don't know what's in the Old Testament, don't care what's in the Old Testament, don't care that they don't know and don't care that they don't care, those four things are the only things they know are in the Old Testament.

[PDawson21]

The Law's are what we are referring to, not the creation story as far as the Old Covenant. It shows that everything that in that prophesied in the Old Testament(promises, etc) was fulfilled in the New Covenant.

[ensbergcollector]

Jesus also said "I came not to abolish the law but to fulfill it." It's funny how Christians read that and say "See, he abolished the law!" There are no exceptions, no conditions, no caveats in that statement.

and this is the problem with people who read the bible only in an attempt to debunk it. jesus was referring to himself as the fulfillment of the law. the greek word translated as fulfill can also mean to complete, satisfy, etc. This passage also comes in the middle of 3 chapters where jesus is challenging the current interpretation of the old testament scriptures. The entire sermon on the mount is basically jesus saying that the teachers have missed the point of the scriptures.
Jesus is basically saying "listen, the old testament does not lose it's purpose or relevance because i have come. In fact, i am the fulfillment of the prophesies." He proceeds to spend chapters talking about how the law should have been used and interpreted.

also, acts 10:9-16 clearly addresses the issue of food law.

[ensbergcollector]

LOL. You have to love the approach Christians take to the Old Testament. "All the parts I don't like, all the parts that tell me to do stuff that I don't wanna do, and all the parts that don't make God look marketable to a present-day consumer...those parts are all figurative, metaphorical and/or intended only for one specific group of people in one specific place in the world at once specific time in history. But all the parts of the Old Testament that I do like, THOSE parts are all literal, historically accurate and meant to apply to everyone, everywhere, forever, whether they like it or not and whether they even know it or not."

Guess what, Sunny Jim? The creation story that you people have wasted billions of dollars and millions of hours trying to force into public schools is in the Old Testament. The Ten Commandments that you people have wasted billions of dollars and millions of hours trying to force into government buildings are in the Old Testament. The Noah's Ark myth that you people have wasted billions of dollars and millions of hours trying to claim is scientifically and historically accurate is in the Old Testament. And the part where it says you should execute homosexuals that you people have wasted billions of dollars and millions of hours trying to get into the US Constitution is in the Old Testament. And since most Christians have never read the Bible, don't know what's in the Old Testament, don't care what's in the Old Testament, don't care that they don't know and don't care that they don't care, those four things are the only things they know are in the Old Testament.

and yet again, you give up any thought that someone would take you seriously by including overwhelming proof that your hatred for all things christian precludes you from being able to have anything resembling a real opinion on christianity. save your hate for people who don't know you better.

[duane1969]

Guess what, Sunny Jim? The creation story that you people have wasted billions of dollars and millions of hours trying to force into public schools is in the Old Testament. The Ten Commandments that you people have wasted billions of dollars and millions of hours trying to force into government buildings are in the Old Testament. .

Guess what Gloomy Joe, the creation story was already in schools and the Ten Commandments were already in government buildings. It is the people that are too weak-minded to be around religion without having a seizure that have wasted money fighting it. You need to get your facts straight in the midst of your rants.

[gatorboymike]

Guess what Gloomy Joe, the creation story was already in schools and the Ten Commandments were already in government buildings. It is the people that are too weak-minded to be around religion without having a seizure that have wasted money fighting it. You need to get your facts straight in the midst of your rants.

Sure, maybe back before people actually started enforcing the law.