Jesus & a relationship with Him

**mrveggieman** · 01-31-2012, 11:46 AM

Originally Posted by ensbergcollector View Post

huh? are you saying no one lives like they are supposed to? Or are you making sure i know that people who claim to be christians "do it too"? i was thinking more of people who claim christianity than others because that is what I am exposed to the most.

I was clarifiying my post by the time you were quoting it but I do agree that regardless of your religion you should practice what you preach. Don't go around acting all holier than thou and your stuff dosen't stink because eventually you will be exposed. This goes for all from christians, jews, muslims or whatever your flava of the month is.

**ensbergcollector** · 01-31-2012, 11:56 AM

Originally Posted by mrveggieman View Post

I was clarifiying my post by the time you were quoting it but I do agree that regardless of your religion you should practice what you preach. Don't go around acting all holier than thou and your stuff dosen't stink because eventually you will be exposed. This goes for all from christians, jews, muslims or whatever your flava of the month is.

i think the issue is less people acting holier than thou then it is people claiming they are christian, jewish, muslim, etc. and not once acting like they believe anything their respective religion teaches.
the number of people who actually act holier than thou seems to be pretty low. The number of people who live carnal immoral lives while claiming to be religious seems to be everywhere.

**~~bangsportscards~~** · 01-31-2012, 04:54 PM

Something to thing about here.

Try not to base too much your idea of God on what you see in other's lives as everyone does come up short in how they live and we all need the help of Someone greater even if this truth is denied.

Brian

**gatorboymike** · 01-31-2012, 08:03 PM

Originally Posted by USCGamecocks View Post

Something to thing about here.

Try not to base too much your idea of God on what you see in other's lives as everyone does come up short in how they live and we all need the help of Someone greater even if this truth is denied.

Brian

The problem with that is that so many people claim to have had their lives, their personalities, and everything about their very existence fundamentally transformed by this supposed supernatural being, via an intimate, personal, esoteric and inexplicable connection with same...and then they go on being the same grubby scumbags they always were, only now they're more smug about it.

**~~bangsportscards~~** · 01-31-2012, 09:18 PM

I honestly can't give a solid response gatorboymike without further specific details as there are many variables to look at in the response that you've provided.

God can definitely change any person, if they allow such. And He can sustain this change as they allow. People can be totally transformed from this foundational divine occurance.

Here's a comment I'll leave us with. A Christian can be changed (born again) and still have a very challenging course ahead which could portray God as less than what another desires. Our nature apart from God is not so beautiful.

Again it's best to base a personal relationship to God not on what others show of God or Jesus but to seek the truth with an open humble heart.

Brian

**boba** · 01-31-2012, 09:41 PM

Originally Posted by gatorboymike View Post

The problem with that is that so many people claim to have had their lives, their personalities, and everything about their very existence fundamentally transformed by this supposed supernatural being, via an intimate, personal, esoteric and inexplicable connection with same...and then they go on being the same grubby scumbags they always were, only now they're more smug about it.