Indiana passes Right to Work Bill

[duane1969]

I also want to Know how much of the UNION dues go towards LIBERAL DEMOCRAT donations. I bet you would be surprised!!

No I wouldn't.

[mrveggieman]

The Right to Work bill prevents people from being blocked from getting a job because they refuse to join a union or pay union dues. It has nothing to do with protecting or not protecting workers who are already employed. The Right to Work bill does not block unions from existing, just from forcing people to be in a union to get in a job.

Considering your typically liberal ideals, I can't imagine why you would support unions blocking people from getting a job because they don't want to join the union.

Being in a union should be a choice, not a requirement. Paying union dues should be something you choose to do, not something you are strongarmed into doing so you can put food on the table and pay the rent.

I worked for a company a few years ago that had an office different states that was unionized. I worked in the Maryland office which was considered closed shop which meant union fees were manditory. Joining a union was not a requirement for getting a job but you must pay union dues as a condition of keeping your job. I cant remember what they were but I didn't notice a big hit off my check. However just across the state line in Virginia it was open shop which meant union dues were not required. I was ok with it either way. I loved having someone that had my back if my company did something funny (they didn't knock on wood). Paying union dues is just like paying hospitalization insurance. You will gladly pay it and be perfectly fine with never having to use it.

[duane1969]

I worked for a company a few years ago that had an office different states that was unionized. I worked in the Maryland office which was considered closed shop which meant union fees were manditory. Joining a union was not a requirement for getting a job but you must pay union dues as a condition of keeping your job. I cant remember what they were but I didn't notice a big hit off my check. However just across the state line in Virginia it was open shop which meant union dues were not required. I was ok with it either way. I loved having someone that had my back if my company did something funny (they didn't knock on wood). Paying union dues is just like paying hospitalization insurance. You will gladly pay it and be perfectly fine with never having to use it.

I have worked in a closed shop as well. And I repeat, union dues should not be a stipulation for getting or keeping a job. A union should not be able to displace a worker for not being part of the union. People should not be strongarmed into paying a fee to keep their job. Quite simply, that is extortion.

[mrveggieman]

I have worked in a closed shop as well. And I repeat, union dues should not be a stipulation for getting or keeping a job. A union should not be able to displace a worker for not being part of the union. People should not be strongarmed into paying a fee to keep their job. Quite simply, that is extortion.

Paying union dues are just like paying taxes. The only difference is if you need the union to do something for you they got your back. I can't say the same thing for the gov't.

[AUTaxMan]

Paying union dues are just like paying taxes. The only difference is if you need the union to do something for you they got your back. I can't say the same thing for the gov't.

And if you disagree with the union's position on an issue, you'd better watch your back.

[mrveggieman]

And if you disagree with the union's position on an issue, you'd better watch your back.

And if you disagree with the job treating you like a piece of trash enjoy the unemployment line.

[duane1969]

And if you disagree with the job treating you like a piece of trash enjoy the unemployment line.

Not many businesses who consistently treat their employees bad are in business for long. And if the mistreatment is illegal then there are labor laws to protect us.

[mrveggieman]

Not many businesses who consistently treat their employees bad are in business for long. And if the mistreatment is illegal then there are labor laws to protect us.

Not in most right to work states in this economy. This is an employers dream. First of all they can use the economy as an excuse not to pay you anything. You can look for something else but the next ten companies will that will even give you a second look will all give you the same excuse. They then work you like a slave with the threat of firing you if you do not say yes massar while smiling, grinning and dancing for them. Also there is nothing in the labor laws as far as I know that will stop a company from changing its commission formula around whenever it feels like it to find new ways not to pay you your money.

[AUTaxMan]

And if you disagree with the job treating you like a piece of trash enjoy the unemployment line.

Get a new job. You don't have a right to work there, and why would you want to work there if you hate(d) it so much? If you are worth hiring, someone else will hire you. It's not like you have one job and if you lose it, you are unemployed for the rest of your life.

It has become clear to me that you believe that you have a fundamental right to a job. Guess what? You don't. You can't have a right to anything infringes upon another's personal property rights or freedoms.

If I don't want to hire you, I don't have to. If I want to hire you and pay you crap, that's my call. You work for me. Go work somewhere else if you can't live by my rules (as long as they aren't unconstitutionally discriminatory). You can't make me pay you more. You have to make yourself so indisposable so that I have no other choice but to pay you more.

[ensbergcollector]

i can understand why people in unions support unions. it is almost impossible to be fired, even if you don't do your job or do it poorly. someone in this thread compared it to paying insurance. that is pretty close. it is job insurance. join the union and you never have to worry about being fired, regardless of what you do.

and before someone says that isn't true, feel free to bump the thread about the teacher making 100K a year who hasn't worked in a decade.