Indiana passes Right to Work Bill

[Star_Cards]

Ya'll are comparing apples to oranges. People want a girlfirend for friendship, compionship, other reasons but they do not need a girlfriend for day to day survival. If/when the cons outweigh the pros of having that particular girlfriend let her go. However you need a job in order to make money to pay your bills, buy food, gas, clothes, etc. If you don't work you can't make money to live. Unfortunately some people have to work jobs that they hate because that is all that is available to them at the time.

I said it's a bit like it. not exactly. of course people know the difference. It's an analogy. The point is, if I work at a place that wants to try to get rid of my, even if I'm part of a union and the union saves me I'm not going to feel that great about still working there and probably wouldn't want to work there.

[Star_Cards]

Not in most right to work states in this economy. This is an employers dream. First of all they can use the economy as an excuse not to pay you anything. You can look for something else but the next ten companies will that will even give you a second look will all give you the same excuse. They then work you like a slave with the threat of firing you if you do not say yes massar while smiling, grinning and dancing for them. Also there is nothing in the labor laws as far as I know that will stop a company from changing its commission formula around whenever it feels like it to find new ways not to pay you your money.

I'd really love to know the percentage of union jobs and non union jobs in Indiana as well as the United States. The percentage of non union jobs is probably way higher than union. If that is true, then why aren't the non union employers taking huge advantages of their employees?

[AUTaxMan]

I'd really love to know the percentage of union jobs and non union jobs in Indiana as well as the United States. The percentage of non union jobs is probably way higher than union. If that is true, then why aren't the non union employers taking huge advantages of their employees?

Because nobody wants to work for a company that treats their employees like crap. The market self-corrects. Unions are no longer necessary.

[mrveggieman]

Get a new job. You don't have a right to work there, and why would you want to work there if you hate(d) it so much? If you are worth hiring, someone else will hire you. It's not like you have one job and if you lose it, you are unemployed for the rest of your life.

It has become clear to me that you believe that you have a fundamental right to a job. Guess what? You don't. You can't have a right to anything infringes upon another's personal property rights or freedoms.

If I don't want to hire you, I don't have to. If I want to hire you and pay you crap, that's my call. You work for me. Go work somewhere else if you can't live by my rules (as long as they aren't unconstitutionally discriminatory). You can't make me pay you more. You have to make yourself so indisposable so that I have no other choice but to pay you more.

I no longer work there, I haven't worked there for over two years. And yes I looked for a new job every day that I was working there. Remember regardless of which administration you want to blame we have been in the middle of a recession for the past several years so it was not like the average joe on the street had a bunch of jobs to chose from. Eventually I came across the job that I have now which may not pay as much as I used to make at my old job prior to them robbing us out of our commission but it is not at all stressful and I leave each day with my peace of mind and that is worth more than any amount of money can buy.

[mrveggieman]

Because nobody wants to work for a company that treats their employees like crap. The market self-corrects. Unions are no longer necessary.

You are right nobody wants to work for an job that treats them like crap but this is an employer's market so they don't have to pay their employees a competitive wage because no other company does either since businesses use the economy as an excuse to raise prices but lower employee wages all while fattening their bottom line. Kind of ironic because a lot of these big businesses are the reason why the economy tanked in the first place. SMH.

[Star_Cards]

You are right nobody wants to work for an job that treats them like crap but this is an employer's market so they don't have to pay their employees a competitive wage because no other company does either since businesses use the economy as an excuse to raise prices but lower employee wages all while fattening their bottom line. Kind of ironic because a lot of these big businesses are the reason why the economy tanked in the first place. SMH.

I'll speak for the company I work for... we still get paid a competitive wage and they haven't cut any of our benefits since the economic slide.

I do agree that there are a lot of companies just sitting on cash and not hiring, which does hurt the economy as a whole. Slowly they have and will start hiring again though.

[mrveggieman]

I'll speak for the company I work for... we still get paid a competitive wage and they haven't cut any of our benefits since the economic slide.

I do agree that there are a lot of companies just sitting on cash and not hiring, which does hurt the economy as a whole. Slowly they have and will start hiring again though.

I'm sure companies will hire again but will not pay their employees as much as they used to and blame it on the economy.

[AUTaxMan]

I'm sure companies will hire again but will not pay their employees as much as they used to and blame it on the economy.

Why should they pay their employees as much as they used to?

[duane1969]

Why should they pay their employees as much as they used to?

Beat me to it. There is no moral, legal or ethical reason that they would be required to match any previous salary. If the market doesn't support the wage then it would be economic suicide to pay a salary that is excessive.

[mrveggieman]

These big companies don't want to pay their employees a livable wage and blame it on the economy but then turn around and complain because no one wants to buy their products because they can't afford them. It's a classic case of a dog chasing it's tail. SMH.