How To Get To Heaven When You Die

[shrewsbury]

i would agree it was a wonderful event and a great thing

[Wickabee]

i would agree it was a wonderful event and a great thing

Some would say that equates a miracle.
By dictionary definition, they'd be wrong, but in spirit of the point they're trying to get across, they wouldn't be.

[pspstatus]

What would you do if God spoke to you and you KNEW that it was God? Would you obey Him? What if God sent an angel into your family to save a loved one and you knew that there was no other explanation other than that God is real? What would you do if you saw God working in your life repeatedly in different situations and at different times? Would you believe in Him? Would you accept Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior?

If you're talking about a God based in Christianity I wouldn't obey him necessarily because I disagree with some major beliefs in the Christian faith but sure I would believe in him. I also don't believe that a truly loving God would demand so much obedience though. Which is one of the biggest problems I have with these things. The Bible was written in a time when rulers of the people demanded the same obedience. There are so many parallels between the most powerful kings and clergy and the idea of God in the Bible.

[duwal]

God spoke to me. God sent an angel to my 3 year old cousin who almost died in a house fire and told her where to go to get rescued. An off duty fireman happened to be driving by and found her under the window with her hands over her head. As that happened, my grandma, who had been praying for the family for years and was a strong Chrstian, was miles away in her bed sleeping. She heard a voice that woke her up that said "There's been a fire, liz and the kids got out ok". A few minutes later the phone rang and told them about the fire, but she already knew. Yes God is real. There is no other explanation for what happened other than that the God of the bible sent that angel and the voice was basically telling my grandmother that her prayers had been answered. God rules meekly to those who humble themselves before Him and be loyal to Him, but with an iron hand with those who will not. What King wouldn't charge his follower with treason for not being loyal to him?

some people really should be put on meds

[ensbergcollector]

some people really should be put on meds

gotta love that liberal tolerance and acceptance. oh wait, unless it is something i disagree with and don't believe in, and in that case the person is obviously crazy. smh

[shrewsbury]

Some would say that equates a miracle.

i have no problem with that, but I, myself, would not use the word in this case.

I wouldn't obey him necessarily because I disagree with some major beliefs in the Christian faith but sure I would believe in him.

i would bet you would obey him, the choice no longer would be yours, but i get what you are saying and can respect that

I also don't believe that a truly loving God would demand so much obedience though. Which is one of the biggest problems I have with these things. The Bible was written in a time when rulers of the people demanded the same obedience. There are so many parallels between the most powerful kings and clergy and the idea of God in the Bible.

some of us christians believe the old testament is just history, that when were were given our 3rd and final chance, the rules changed quite a bit. god allowed jesus (if you will) to change things up, to help us humans get things in a different manner, instead of a angry father with an iron hand approach, he took us to a more loving and understanding approach.

but i completely understand how people do not believe in jesus or any god, or even a different god. it is one of the most important decisions in your life to make, and should be a true personal one, not something forced upon you or whispered in your ear. it is your path to choose and that is the best thing about it.

[Wickabee]

i have no problem with that, but I, myself, would not use the word in this case.

and my answer to that would be:

By dictionary definition, they'd be wrong, but in spirit of the point they're trying to get across, they wouldn't be.

[Paddington]

a loving, understanding, and forgiving one

He IS loving, understanding and forgiving to those who allow Him to extend it to them. He won't force it on anyone. Freewill.

All He is asking for you to trust in Him. I don't think that's too much to ask. How shall He rule a Kingdom full of people who won't obey and don't care about Him or doing the right thing? It would be chaos and pain, like we see on this earth. Heaven is very different. It's incredibly orderly and beautiful because everyone there is fully submitted to God's will.

[Paddington]

What EXACTLY did God say to you? Or did your biased mind interpret the circumstances surrounding this fire as God speaking to you?

I was a Christian who had turned away from going to church and doing God's will for a long time. I was the most miserable person on earth I felt. I decided to go back to church and had visited one. They came and visited on me and I prayed and asked God if it was His will to let me know. That night as I laid in bed, I made up my mind that I wouldn't go back to that church. At that moment, I felt God's spirit go through my wall and hover over my chest. I felt Him look directly into my eyes and then He spoke straight into my mind "I want you to go back to that church" in a very clear way. I was 100% sure that God was right in front of me. I cried and told Him I was sorry for my sins and that I would serve Him from now on. The next morning, I heard an evil voice that woke me up "I'm going to get your kids" It was satan. I believe that part of what God was doing was calling me to do what I am doing on here sharing God's plan of salvation with the world. He desires that everyone here would accept His free gift of salvation.

Where was God and his angels when the family 1,000 miles away, who attended church faithfully, all perished in a house fire?

I can't answer for God, but what I can say is that sometimes bad things happen to good people. God has a plan for everything that happens.

Ro 8:28 And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose.

It's convenient that God's plan for the foreseeable future included your cousin. Same can't be said for many other "good" christians who die young every day.

I believe that had my Grandmother not prayed for the family as she did, my cousin would have died in that fire. He spoke to my Grandmother to let her know that her prayer had been answered.

My responses are in bold above.

[Wickabee]

He IS loving, understanding and forgiving to those who allow Him to extend it to them. He won't force it on anyone. Freewill.

All He is asking for you to trust in Him. I don't think that's too much to ask. How shall He rule a Kingdom full of people who won't obey and don't care about Him or doing the right thing? It would be chaos and pain, like we see on this earth. Heaven is very different. It's incredibly orderly and beautiful because everyone there is fully submitted to God's will.

I fully believe in God, but the God of any one religion? Not a chance.
How could I possibly trust in a God who has people who've done the things that have been done in charge of his word and worship?

Simply put, I cannot.