Trayvon Martin

[bosoulja82]

I dont know what the charge should be or will be but according to the fact Zimmerman was following Trayvon. So if Trayvon beat him up that was in self defense because Zimmerman should not have been following anyone. Zimmerman following someone caused this stuff guys.

Lets say you walking around and all of a sudden this guy starts following you. You havent done nothing wrong. You are just chillen and this guy is following you. Have any of you ever thought that Trayvon thought that maybe this guy was goin to cause harm to him, maybe rob him or KILL HIM. Trayvon had every right to whoop that guy butt and if any of you said he didnt you are lyin to yourself. (what would you do if a complete stranger was following you and approached you) ZIMMERMAN IS NOT THE POLICE. He had no right to be following this guy. Zimmerman killed a innocent teenager because of his paranoia. Its obviously a mental problem(not tryin to be funny about that) Zimmerman has anytime you call the police that many time in a 2 or 1 yr span. He has to be charged because he caused this entire SAD situation.

Zimmerman life will never be the same. He was obviously a very paranoid person anyway but that should get worse now. People want let him live in peace. He will be scared everywhere he and everytime someone knocks on his door. I read somewhere that he thinks this will blow over one day. Yes it will die down in the national media but everytime someone see Zimmerman the first thing they will think of will be the kid he shot and killed while he was tryin to be a police officer

I for one do think Trayvon beat this guy up. Kids these day can scrap. He was getting stalked though and he should have his right to beat up a stalker. Zimmerman may have had his best intentions in mind but he must get charged with something because this entire thing was cause by him stalking someone

This is just my opinion on it.

[mikesilvia]

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[Wickabee]

i agree with the speculations and even more things are possible, i have no quarrel with that.



but if what you think happened, did not happen, then his paranoia may have saved his life and the life of others

The man called 911 how many times between Januray 1 and this incident in February?
Yeah, he's paranoid and needs help, even if he hadn't shot Trayvon.

[AUTaxMan]

Here's a pretty good summary of what we know:

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/...black-teenager

[gladdyontherise]

I think in this case it is wrong to make assumptions as anyone who has a pre-determined mind set tends to only look at opinions that favor theirs. I for one would not like to be tried in a courtroom where the jurors have their minds made up before we go in.

Also if you think the kid looked like a 12 year old you have not seen his newer pics... The ones that ran 24/7 on the news was not a recent picture at all. Not saying anyone was right or wrong but there is a ton of misleading information on both sides of this one andsadly we will probably never know the whole truth.

You're right, I must've not seen a recent picture then.

I'm not 'set in my ways' so to speak, but just based on the information given that's all we can do to try and determine what happened.

[Star_Cards]

You must have missed the part of that story where it says Zimmerman was following Martin and that the 911 operator told him not to. I don't know if that's actually what happened but don't just assume that because Zimmerman was losing the fight that he didn't in fact start it. I wouldn't be cool with someone following me like that.

I heard this morning that it may be possible that trayvon was the one that attacked zimmerman while he was following him. Zimmerman's camp is saying that trayvon attacked him, broke his nose, and then started smashing his head against the pavement and then a struggle to the weapon ensued. I'd really like to see an official report from the police at this point to know exactly what happened.

If this story happens to be true, there are a lot of new questions. While it would be annoying to be followed, does being followed warrant turning and then attacking a person. If the scenario went down as it's being claimed above It's a completely different story in my opinion. I wish the facts about this case were available. Without the facts everyone is just jumping to assumptions and it's not doing anyone any good.

[Star_Cards]

I agree people need to wait for all the facts to come out, but just on an assumption. Look at the size of Zimmerman and the size of Martin. Are we really suppose to believe this kid (who looked like he could pass for being 12-14 years old) was "beating" on Zimmerman and holding him down etc?

Sorry, I can't buy that..

Why was Zimmerman chasing him down? I'd love to know this..There is no such thing as "self defense" when you're running after someone who you feel you need to defend yourself from.

agreed, we need facts, but I don't agree with the take of zimmerman was heavier than trayvon so therefore there's no way martin couldn't have attacked and put zimmerman in position of self defense. We really don't know how zimmerman's pursuit happened. Maybe they weren't running anymore? Maybe trayvon did break his nose and started smashing his head on the ground? If that did happen and even if zimmerman chose to follow martin, does that give the martin the right to attack zimmerman like that, if true? definitely need more facts at this point.

[mrveggieman]

a street fighting teen returns to retaliate on an overweight near middle aged man.

Zimmerman is 28 years old. That hardly qualifies as middle aged.

[duane1969]

You must have missed the part of that story where it says Zimmerman was following Martin and that the 911 operator told him not to. I don't know if that's actually what happened but don't just assume that because Zimmerman was losing the fight that he didn't in fact start it. I wouldn't be cool with someone following me like that.

911 operators are not an authority on things tho. 911 operators will err on the side of caution but if one says "You should not do that" it doesn't mean that the person is held to obeying the 911 operator.

I agree people need to wait for all the facts to come out, but just on an assumption. Look at the size of Zimmerman and the size of Martin. Are we really suppose to believe this kid (who looked like he could pass for being 12-14 years old) was "beating" on Zimmerman and holding him down etc?

Sorry, I can't buy that..

Why was Zimmerman chasing him down? I'd love to know this..There is no such thing as "self defense" when you're running after someone who you feel you need to defend yourself from.

Zimmerman was a member of the community watch in a gated community, so he was justified in following questionable people. The term 'chasing down" implies that he meant harm. If you saw someone in your neighborhood that you thought was up to no good and you followed them while you called 911, would that qualify as chasing them down?

And there are pics coming out of Martin that reveal more than what is being presented. The media has presented Martin as this cute little kid. He was not quite as little or as innocent looking as the middle school football player they keep showing. There are pics starting to surface of him flaunting his gold grill, showing off his tattoos, standing up shirtless with his pants sagged "flipping the bird" with both hands...not the cute little boy we have been led to believe he was.

He had also been in trouble at school for putting graffitti on lockers, possesion of a marijuana pipe and a baggy with traces of marijuana and had been caught with women's jewelry that was suspected of being stolen which had been turned over to the police. His mother says that his school records are irrelevant, yet she filed a court order right after his death to try and supress his school records. Why?

[shrewsbury]

Zimmerman is 28 years old. That hardly qualifies as middle aged

that's all you can pick from that? you're losing your edge!!!!!


when does a beating turn into murder? when do you decide, this is just a fight, or this person is going to kill me? when your head is getting pounded into the pavement or when you're dead?