Trayvon Martin

[ensbergcollector]

by the name, I'd assume that it was a white man as well. With that and no picture I'd assume that he was white.

yes, but would you start a thread where you specifically said the shooter was white? no, you would probably write the thread with no mention of the shooters race.

[Star_Cards]

yes, but would you start a thread where you specifically said the shooter was white? no, you would probably write the thread with no mention of the shooters race.

I wouldn't.

[mrveggieman]

Yes I made an assumption and yes I am man enough to admit that I was wrong. In any event justice must be served in the Trayvon Martin case as well as the case of the child on the other thread who was set on fire. We cannot stand by in silence while these monsters go around hurting our children.

[*censored*]

The guy made something like 50 calls to the police in the last 14 months and 28 calls to since the start of 2012 complaining about "young Black male suspicious activity."

Nope, no axe to grind there.

Best of all, this "stand your ground law" in Florida resulted in a self-defense claim by Zimmerman that the police bought. He wasn't charged, they didn't administer any drug or alcohol tests, they sent a narcotics detective to the scene instead of a homicide detective, withheld 911 calls that show Zimmerman saying something that sounded like "f***ing coons," and didn't ask anything of Martin's girlfriend who was on the phone with him at the time of the attack.

I don't give a crap if Zimmerman is white, hispanic, or black, and those focusing on an assumption of his whiteness in this thread are missing the point. He shot someone and police incompetence, disregard for their job, and perhaps even racism resulted in the guy (so far) getting away with it.

[shrewsbury]

how did he get dirt on his back? did the youngman turn with the cellphone as his hands dropped down, and it appeared to be a gun? why was he in a gated community, did both live their? and the cops were there in less than 4 minutes?

i would like to know the answer to those questions

the racial comments show the guy is an idiot, but even an idiot has the right to protect himself, if that was the case

[WilyWestbrook0]

I understand the outrage over this case.

https://www.documentcloud.org/docume...zimmerman.html

Zimmerman is claiming (lying) that he shot Trayvon in "self-defense" even when the transcript above clearly shows, in step by step fashion, that 1) Zimmerman spotted Trayvon, 2) Trayvon did nothing to him and was merely walking around, 3) Trayvon then ran *away from* Zimmerman, and 4) Zimmerman is the one who instigated the whole situation by needlessly chasing after him. Self-defense? *Trayvon* was the one acting in self-defense - Trayvon had no weapon to protect himself with, and this Zimmerman guy just chases after him out of the blue!

It's right in the transcript, as well as in the other facts of the case - as empirical and black and white as can be.

Unbelievable. And still uncharged.

[cbuskstwar]

Robert = short for Roberto
Zimmerman = white father or step/adoptive father

veggie, it would appear that you racially profiled based on a name

Veggie, thats horrible

[shrewsbury]

Zimmerman is claiming (lying) that he shot Trayvon in "self-defense" even when the transcript above clearly shows, in step by step fashion, that 1) Zimmerman spotted Trayvon, 2) Trayvon did nothing to him and was merely walking around, 3) Trayvon then ran *away from* Zimmerman, and 4) Zimmerman is the one who instigated the whole situation by needlessly chasing after him. Self-defense? *Trayvon* was the one acting in self-defense - Trayvon had no weapon to protect himself with, and this Zimmerman guy just chases after him out of the blue!

It's right in the transcript, as well as in the other facts of the case - as empirical and black and white as can be.

this says nothing of the fact. the kid seen him on th ephone with the police and ran off, why? why was he in a gated community he didn't live in? and the most important what happened after he got off the phone?

no black and white here

[WilyWestbrook0]

He ran off probably because he was scared for his life. The kid is a minor, and someone is calling the police on him and chasing after him for no reason - he was just walking around. It's been reported that he was unarmed and had no criminal record. Why did Zimmerman run after him, other than groundless paranoia? Even the dispatcher thought that was needless - did you actually read the transcript and follow it in linear fashion? If the kid had actually threatened him in any way, I could understand his actions, but the kid did nothing to him, and Zimmerman instigated the chase, shooting a kid who was unarmed.

How anyone justifies this is beyond me.

[shrewsbury]

read it three times. where does it say he chased him? no where, how do you know the teen did not come back to zimmerman?

why would you a afraid of someone on the phone with the police?

he was 17, technically a minor but he's old enough to have common sense.

why didn't the teen call the police if a mad man with a gun was chasing him down?

the teen had his hand in his waisteband, common place to carry gun, the teen was in a gated community, the teen ran off.

not saying zimmerman is in the right, but from what i have seen, there is not much proof to back up anything.