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03-21-2012, 09:12 PM #21
Dispatcher: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah.
Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.
A minor who has little experience in life is naturally going to be scared of a man he has never seen before calling the police on him. If someone is coming after you with a gun, you have NO TIME to make a phone call - this is the here and now we are talking about, and your life is on the line. It's flee and defend yourself, or nothing. And again, even according to Zimmerman himself, he was merely walking around - he had committed no crime. Zimmerman's paranoia caused him to freak out - he assumed the kid must have had something in the waistband, but he didn't. There is no "self-defense" - he went after a minor who had no weapon, and shot and killed him.Last edited by WilyWestbrook0; 03-21-2012 at 09:14 PM.
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03-21-2012, 09:18 PM #22
http://abcnews.go.com/US/trayvon-mar...7#.T2p9YdV0Suk
ABC News was there exclusively as the 16-year-old girl told Crump about the last moments of the teenager's life. Martin had been talking to his girlfriend all the way to the store where he bought Skittles and a tea. The phone was in his pocket and the earphone in his ear, Crump said. "He said this man was watching him, so he put his hoodie on. He said he lost the man," Martin's friend said. "I asked Trayvon to run, and he said he was going to walk fast. I told him to run, but he said he was not going to run."
Eventually, he would run, said the girl, thinking that he'd managed to escape. But suddenly the strange man was back, cornering Martin.
"Trayvon said, 'What are you following me for,' and the man said, 'What are you doing here.' Next thing I hear is somebody pushing, and somebody pushed Trayvon because the head set just fell. I called him again, and he didn't answer the phone."
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03-21-2012, 09:52 PM #23
[QUOTE]Dispatcher: Are you following him?
Zimmerman: Yeah.
Dispatcher: Ok, we don't need you to do that.[QUOTE]
why did you cut if off there? after this zimmerman said "ok" and then talked to the dispatcher, so zimmerman was not running after anyone.
my point is; what happened after the call to the dispatcher and the time the teen was shot?
i guess when the police release the phone records we may know more, but at this time we are all making assumptions.
how do you know the teen was not a thief who never been caught before? how do you know he was not there to break in a home? how do you know he did not come back and threaten zimmerman?
just like how do you know that zmmerman isn't a maniac racist who jumped in his truck chased the kid down and shot him in cold blood?
it would be unfair to assume anything with the information given so far
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03-21-2012, 11:51 PM #24
I don't think anyone is justifying it. It is easy to look at the facts after the shooting and condemn it. Hindsight is 20/20.
What about the facts before the shooting?
- Martin was walking around after dark in a gated community that he does not live in that has problems with crime and break-ins.
- When he thought he was being followed he pulled up his hood (Why? to hide his identity?)
- When he realized he was definitely being followed he ran (Why run if he is doing nothing wrong?)
- When confronted by the community watch person (who has a right to ask what he is doing there) he becomes defensive and confrontational.
So let's summarize. In a community with a crime problem he is walking around after dark, pulling up his hood when followed, running away to try and avoid being followed and becomes confrontational when asked what he is doing there. And the community watch guy was supposed to assume he was just out buying candy? Come on...
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03-22-2012, 04:49 AM #25BANNED
None of that justifies shooting someone, let alone killing them..........
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03-22-2012, 08:10 AM #26
I guess the moral of the story is Trayvon should have been packing so that he had a decent chance at defending himself.
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03-22-2012, 08:59 AM #27
[QUOTE]I guess the moral of the story is Trayvon should have been packing so that he had a decent chance at defending himself.[QUOTE]
yes, if he was innocent
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03-22-2012, 09:15 AM #28
He said he was following him and that he ran away. If he can into contact with him he either chased after him or trayvon came back around. They should be able to prove which happened by where trayvon was found.
how do you know that trayvon knew who he called and if he was even on the phone at all. dark assume it was dark and rain could have kept him from hearing.
maybe he didn't have a phone?
I get that zimmerman would be suspicious of a person walking around in the rain, but once the police was called it seems odd that he'd pursue him to where he'd come into contact with him. that's said assuming that trayvon didn't come back to him after he ran away. I do get a sense of vigilantism on the part of zimmerman from that 911 call.
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03-22-2012, 09:43 AM #29
Sounds like another case of WWB. Walking While Black. SMH.
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03-22-2012, 10:32 AM #30
Yeah because if it had been a white, asian or latino guy, in a gated community that he was not from, in an area where there has been crime issues, walking around after dark, covering his head with a hood when he realized that he was being followed and then runing to try and get away from being followed. nobody would have thought anytnhing about it.
SMH at the silly notion that everything that happens to a black person is racially motivated.
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