Contenders worth it?

[jlai624]

around $115 at my LCS

For that price, I think it's pretty decent. I opened one with my friend yesterday and pulled a NHL INK Ovie.

He definitely saved the box. But boxes are just like gambling, you gotta pay to play.

No point in arguing it's worth, different to everyone.

[Fred Bear]

These debates seriously go no where.

Is a box ever worth the hits you get? 99% heck no.

And it will always remain that way. These companies run a business and if they ever give you what something is actually worth, it is poor business sense and practice. They will not lose money for you. Which company in the world does that. No one! Not even charities!

So quit asking is a product worth it. Answer is simple: No and Never.

I'm sorry, but this simply isn't true.

Your argument amounts to: Product costs me more to buy than it did them to make, so I lose. If you truly believe this, why would you ever collect? I'm being serious.

Of course products sell for more than it cost to manufacture them... cards, cars, homes, milk, gas... it is all manufactured or processed for LESS than what it costs in the marketplace. In fact, products are EVEN marked up if you are buying at the wholesale level (i.e. below retail). Manufacturing cost has NOTHING to do with the 'value' of that product, especially when you are talking about collectibles.

You can, however, compare retail price to collectible 'value'. Some products make it - Score, UD1 & UD2 (at least at initial release), BTP. Some products don't - SPGU, SPA (from some of the opinions here), Contenders (the OP's question).

I tend to agree with your comments on the 'value' of Contenders. Products which rely on RCs will live and die by that year's crop. This year, RNH and Landeskog will define a lot of these late products, no different than Eberle, Hall & Seguin defining most of last year's. Contenders does pack in more 'hits' then SPA and they are in the same neighborhood on price, so it's a natural comparison. SPA probably loses out on 'perceived' value - 1-2 booklets plus more patch autos per case seems to give collectors more to go after. SPA is a hit, though, for the same reason UD1 & UD 2 are - droves of collectors who don't even know the internet exists collect these sets in addition to the many of us who do.

[max91ess]

Contenders is just like SPA except better, in my opinion. I opened 3 cases. In each case I got 5 auto/patches (SPA yields one or two per case, max). I also got 2 multi auto booklet cards in each case (no 3+ auto cards are even case hits in SPA)

So if we are gonna say this product is overpriced, better get ready for much, much worse when SPA rolls around

Lucky you i got none in 1 case( the booklets) ....i got a nugent hopkins /landy dual auto ..that was a booklet replacement ..after 1h on the phone they offered me to exchange my card for a bad booklet..after another 20 min they gave me the booklet and another dual auto as a bonus..

They made it right..but i was really dissapointed last night!!!

Patch auto:

Gomez..
Marleau(1 clr)
Colborne(2 clr)
Vincour 3 clr
gudbransson redemption

I mean horrible...

my 3 boxes of SPX were better than this combined haha

[max91ess]

PS: the cost of this product is 90$ ...you forget the profit the LCS make or online retailers...

[JoexBondo]

Im scared to do boxes of this even at the $88 I get this at cost from my father in laws shop.

[flopfish]

Lucky you i got none in 1 case( the booklets) ....i got a nugent hopkins /landy dual auto ..that was a booklet replacement ..after 1h on the phone they offered me to exchange my card for a bad booklet..after another 20 min they gave me the booklet and another dual auto as a bonus..

They made it right..but i was really dissapointed last night!!!

Patch auto:

Gomez..
Marleau(1 clr)
Colborne(2 clr)
Vincour 3 clr
gudbransson redemption

I mean horrible...

my 3 boxes of SPX were better than this combined haha

He got the cream of the crop cases, you got a bad one, it happens. There are cases of SPx that are worse than your case, and a Nuge/Landeskog dual on card auto is a pretty awesome card, but I would've done the same as you. Your players for the patches weren't great, but that can happen in any product. It's just a risk/reward thing.

[bojohnson]

For $75.00 per box MAX, you should be able to get:

2 Rookies
2 Autos
2 Short prints #/100 or less minimum
4 Longer print ratios at above #750
10 Insert cards

If people are now paying upwards of $100.00 for less, then they are fools.

ya and then the autos of stars like weber etc can sell for 2$ instead of 6$

its called gambling, we cant all win
if we all won at casinos, what would he the point if casinos?


when you buy a pack or box, you are gambling
you are paying to gamble, if you dont like gambling, dont gamble, buy individual cards

i spent 53$ yesterday on 8 packs, got all base, and a nemisz auto
i gambled, i failed

contenders is still a good product

its a gamble

[hockey01]

delete this post of mine, this argurment will never end cause there are to many different point of views.

[centrehice]

ya and then the autos of stars like weber etc can sell for 2$ instead of 6$

its called gambling, we cant all win
if we all won at casinos, what would he the point if casinos?


when you buy a pack or box, you are gambling
you are paying to gamble, if you dont like gambling, dont gamble, buy individual cards

i spent 53$ yesterday on 8 packs, got all base, and a nemisz auto
i gambled, i failed

contenders is still a good product

its a gamble

I lived in Las Vegas for almost a Year. I gambled in Casinos that returned 97 cents for every dollars you put in a machine, unlike the Casinos in Wpg, Regina, and Montreal that only return 40 cents on every dollar put in them.

It's one thing to gamble and another to throw money away, this is throwing it away.

The gamble would be a small incremental miss on investment of say 7-8%, not 90% loss. SPGU and this product appear to easily and frequently be a loss of between 85% and 90%.

Casinos operate on their lowest common denominator of gain and that is Craps. Craps pays the Las Vegas houses between 4-5%. Slots pay from 4-9% and Roulette, Keno, and Bingo pay a whopping 36-42% gain.

[flopfish]

I lived in Las Vegas for almost a Year. I gambled in Casinos that returned 97 cents for every dollars you put in a machine, unlike the Casinos in Wpg, Regina, and Montreal that only return 40 cents on every dollar put in them.

It's one thing to gamble and another to throw money away, this is throwing it away.

The gamble would be a small incremental miss on investment of say 7-8%, not 90% loss. SPGU and this product appear to easily and frequently be a loss of between 85% and 90%.

Casinos operate on their lowest common denominator of gain and that is Craps. Craps pays the Las Vegas houses between 4-5%. Slots pay from 4-9% and Roulette, Keno, and Bingo pay a whopping 36-42% gain.

So if you get 97 cents for every dollar you put in, how come you don't always have $97 after you've spent $100? You'd be lucky to get that. Just like you would to be getting that much in a $100 box of cards.