Does anyone else feel this way?

[Yzerfan]

I sincerely hope that the bottom falls out of the card market again. Really.

I HATE going on eBay and seeing stuff like this:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Steve-Yzerma...item2571de82b1

While a few weeks ago I was bidding on this exact card for my PC. Here is what it went for (as a side note, I only had 65.00 in my Paypal account, which is why I quit bidding.)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/11-12-ITG-CA...item35bcc53340

I understand capitalism and everything. Hell, I love capitalism. But, Christ where does it end?

What happened to collecting? I understand that this is an expensive hobby and people need to sell sometimes. I do it myself. But why try to rip off your fellow collector?

Ignore me if you want, I'm just frustrated.

[hockey01]

that was a cool card!

but listen man, the only way to have real fun in the hobby is to collect within your means. From personal experiance, there are very rich people out there who will buy everything and have unlimited pockets, thats the way of the world, but that should fluster you from having real fun.

edited cause i didnt see that there was 0 bids, just a guy trying to trick someone into buying a expo 1/1

Also thats an 1/1 expo card, not a true 1/1

[Craig2]

If it's any consolation, I doubt they'll be successful selling a show-stamped card for anything approaching that price. They already had no bids at $350 and have relisted at $300, and I'd guess that you'll again see no bids this time around.

I'm guessing that they overestimated the value of a show-stamped card and/or they're trying to pass it off as a "true" 1/1 - hence no mention of the show stamp in their description.

As for the bottom falling out, I'm sure it will happen soon enough!

[Yzerfan]

I know, I know. That's why I mainly collect Yzerman inserts and parallels, but I do want a few nice memorabilia pieces for my collection. Captain-c is a very nice set, and even though it is not a true 1/1, I still wanted it for my PC because it is the same card as the /9 version. Thanks for trying to make me feel better, and if the other guy had been an Yzerman collector I wouldn't have been angry, but because he is a profiteer it really just gets to me.

[JWinn]

I feel you.

Although I don't really wish the bottom to fall out, I am getting disgusted by all the people who have just inserted themselves into the hobby as middlemen. Just to make it harder, more expensive for those of us who COLLECT.

They make it so obvious also.

The other night here, a guy posted how he really needed $100 to buy a card, and needed Paypal desperately. As soon as he got it, he posted a new thread about how he had money, and wanted to buy something.

He wasn't looking to buy anything in his plea for paypal. Just money so he could continue flipping. His only goal is to insert himself between collectors to make money. Nothing else.

Right to my ignore list. No way I will buy anything from him in the future.

It's clear there's a lot of people out there, who to them, cards are just widgets. The could be chairs or tires for all they care. They just want to get in the middle of people trying to enjoy their hobby. OUR hobby!

That sucks you lost out to a guy like this. Who wants 6 times what he paid.

I hope he's stuck with it, and it keeps him from paying his power bill or putting food on the table. Let him eat the dam thing.

Ebay, and this place as well is great for collectors like us. We can expand our knowledge of the hobby, and connect with other like minded people. But there's a lot of sharks out there who just want a bite.

Better luck next time man.

[Yzerfan]

I guess I don't want the bottom to fall out, per se. I just want a lot of profiteers to lose a lot of money. I'm just really tired of over-inflated prices.

[JWinn]

I guess I don't want the bottom to fall out, per se. I just want a lot of profiteers to lose a lot of money. I'm just really tired of over-inflated prices.

Agreed!

That's why I wont buy from people like that who make it obvious what their motive is. No matter how badly I want a card.

I wish more people really felt this way, but this is an impulse driven hobby, and the profiteers know it.

But at least there's a flip side. There are plenty of people here and on ebay who sell their cards for even a fraction of value.

For every bad guy out there, there's a good guy also. Ya just gotta take the bad with the good, and make the best out of it so you can get the most enjoyment out of it.

Not easy, I know.

The hobby sure has changed a lot over the years, that's for sure.


Hey man. Happy Fathers Day if it's applicable.

[MatsSundin13Rocks]

It is a show stamped card! The current seller who is reselling the card is misrepresenting the card in the listing by not specifically stating that it is show stamped 1/1! I have had this same thing happen to me. I lost out on a Kulemin card I wanted and a few weeks later it was listed for a much higher BIN. If the reseller wasn't bidding I would have got a good deal on a great Kulemin card for my PC.

[ncm7772]

I feel the same way, man. It's truly frusterating. You're not the only one this has happened to, and won;t be the last. As someone has already said, some people just have deep pockets. Others may not have pockets as deep, but might spend their $ on NOTHING but cards. It's just how it is, unfortunately.

[razzamaztaz]

It's like the rest of society today, we actually need a crash, or we are slowly sufficating while we pretend we're not. This hobby needs a crash, it's so much inflation in it it's ridicoulous. And no, I'm afraid capitalism don't work very well either, at least not without some kind of great control mechanism that keep it in steady pace. Same with hockeycards. Had there been rules in place in the 90's and ahead till today that only... say 5, products could be produced every year, we never would have had this situation today where you can buy a Malkin 1/1 for $70, or get $35 for a supersweet Tony Esposito stick piece in 10 ex.