Homosexuality in the New Testament

[jessejordan419]

I didn't see anything either unless you want to referencing this:

John 5:46-47

46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

However if you go by that that opens up another can of worms. There are plenty of things in the OT that don't have anything to do with homosexuality that christians ignore. How can you pick an chose to enforce the OT ban on homosexuality because it is convenient but ignore the other OT laws that are not convenient?

Which OT laws do you speak of? It's not picking and choosing when the NT spells out what marriage is. The evidence I give for God still being against sexual sins is from the NT, not me picking and choosing.

[jessejordan419]

By the way, I'm of the opinion that no matter what the bible or any other religious text says has zero bearing in the legislation of same sex marriage being legal. Religious text has no place in the discussion of same sex marriage being recognized legally.

That may be your opinion, but the verse above clearly states that Sodom and Gomorrah were examples of God's judgement on civilizations that practice sexual immorality.

America gave homosexuals the opportunity to reap the same benefits as marriage, just without the title marriage. However, homosexuals were not content with respecting religious beliefs, they were interested in perverting what God says is marriage.

Satan cannot create, he can only pervert or twist what God has created. He twisted man by getting him to sin, he doesn't create a homosexual Boy Scouts, he wants to twist or pervert a Christian based organization by forcing them to allow homosexuals. He can't create a homosexual Chick-fil-a, he can only twist or pervert a Christian corporation, and he cannot create a homosexual civil union, he can only twist or pervert the Judeo-Christian marriage.

[habsheaven]

That may be your opinion, but the verse above clearly states that Sodom and Gomorrah were examples of God's judgement on civilizations that practice sexual immorality.

America gave homosexuals the opportunity to reap the same benefits as marriage, just without the title marriage. However, homosexuals were not content with respecting religious beliefs, they were interested in perverting what God says is marriage.

Satan cannot create, he can only pervert or twist what God has created. He twisted man by getting him to sin, he doesn't create a homosexual Boy Scouts, he wants to twist or pervert a Christian based organization by forcing them to allow homosexuals. He can't create a homosexual Chick-fil-a, he can only twist or pervert a Christian corporation, and he cannot create a homosexual civil union, he can only twist or pervert the Judeo-Christian marriage.

The only one twisting and perverting things is you.

[theonedru]

That may be your opinion, but the verse above clearly states that Sodom and Gomorrah were examples of God's judgement on civilizations that practice sexual immorality.

America gave homosexuals the opportunity to reap the same benefits as marriage, just without the title marriage. However, homosexuals were not content with respecting religious beliefs, they were interested in perverting what God says is marriage.

Satan cannot create, he can only pervert or twist what God has created. He twisted man by getting him to sin, he doesn't create a homosexual Boy Scouts, he wants to twist or pervert a Christian based organization by forcing them to allow homosexuals. He can't create a homosexual Chick-fil-a, he can only twist or pervert a Christian corporation, and he cannot create a homosexual civil union, he can only twist or pervert the Judeo-Christian marriage.

Thank God your a minority when it comes to twisted thoughts like this, you are so not what Jesus envisioned as to what a Christian should be that it could be argued you yourself are an abomination of your own faith.

[shrewsbury]

Jesse, I know Moses is given credit, but not anywhere in the old or new testament does it say this. all references to moses writing anything was the laws of the chosen people. when Jesus spoke of Moses he was talking about believing in him not following his laws.

And when it comes to diet, I believe Mathew 15:11 says it all.

Now for homosexuality in the bible, (if we choose to go this route)

Leviticus 18:22
Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.

and then skip to good old Leviticus 20, and we see them killing homosexual men and just about everything else.

but these are the laws of the jews, the chosen people, not Christians. if we are to choose what to keep and what to throw out, wh tells us this? the only authority to do so is Jesus.

so as a Christian, one should follow the teachings of Jesus and not mans interpretation of them. Though it is great to know many sides, and it is wonderful to learn from others, it is still all up to you and only you.

So what does Jesus teach us about homosexuals?

I have yet to find any reference to Jesus talking about homosexuals.

[JustAlex]

A very important question to christians:

Why should the U.S government impose your beliefs to 100% of it's citizens?

We built a country that is FREE from religion at the government level, this was done in order to protect the rights of EVERYONE, not just christians, but muslims, jews, atheists, etc.


This is why I speak so hard on you guys, because when you say that you don't want gays to be married, you are imposing YOUR Beliefs on everyone else!

You don't get to dictate what others want to do!


Every day that gays don't have the right to be married it is because the majority of people against it are indeed religious and they are imposing their beliefs on the rest of this country......and just like the thread I made.....there are ZERO good reasons why gays should not marry in a secular society like ours.

[shrewsbury]

alex, there is only one person in this thread who is against homosexual marriage do to religious beliefs.

I can't answer for other Christians, but I will say if the only reason a man cannot marry a man or a woman cannot marry a woman is someones else's religion, then something is not right.

I have already made my argument in the other thread you started, no need to repeat it.

[JustAlex]

alex, there is only one person in this thread who is against homosexual marriage do to religious beliefs.

I can't answer for other Christians, but I will say if the only reason a man cannot marry a man or a woman cannot marry a woman is someones else's religion, then something is not right.

I have already made my argument in the other thread you started, no need to repeat it.

Yes I know, I remember, my comment was indeed toward Jesse and anyone else that thinks in that manner.

What he believes is fine, but the U.S government should not impose his or anyone else's religious beliefs on anyone else.

[mrveggieman]

That may be your opinion, but the verse above clearly states that Sodom and Gomorrah were examples of God's judgement on civilizations that practice sexual immorality.

America gave homosexuals the opportunity to reap the same benefits as marriage, just without the title marriage. However, homosexuals were not content with respecting religious beliefs, they were interested in perverting what God says is marriage.

Satan cannot create, he can only pervert or twist what God has created. He twisted man by getting him to sin, he doesn't create a homosexual Boy Scouts, he wants to twist or pervert a Christian based organization by forcing them to allow homosexuals. He can't create a homosexual Chick-fil-a, he can only twist or pervert a Christian corporation, and he cannot create a homosexual civil union, he can only twist or pervert the Judeo-Christian marriage.

Yes both the OT and NT new speak of sexual immorality and I have no problem with that. What I have a problem with is christians throwing out parts of the bible that do not fit their needs. In the NT Jesus clearly states who can you follow him if you don't follow Moses? Moses followed certian dietary restrictions. However those dietary restrictions do not fit with what most christians like to do so they throw them out because they are in the OT. So if you are against homosexuality because the bible says so you should also follow God's dietary plan as perscribed in Genesis 1:29-30 which we all know none of the christians on P&R do.

[shrewsbury]

veggie, does Jesus not say believe, not follow?

also I had freshly made (in our juicer) beet, cucumber, carrot, orange juice for dinner (thought you would like that)