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08-24-2012, 07:42 AM
#101
The interpretations are the same, except for the King James that jesse is using. The NT does speak against homosexuality here. I'm sorry, but you're wrong on this one.
That isn't to say it's an argument against gay marriage and, as I was once told by a very faithful Christian, while it may be up in the air whether Jesus himself said anything about homosexuality, he never once said anything about homosexuals.
As such, I highly doubt that denying them the right to marry by secular definition would matter one iota to Jesus, or God.
Do I think homosexuality is a sin as defined by the bible? Yes. Do I think that has anything to do with what our laws are? Not one bit. No one is forcing you to be homosexual and it is not for you to judge anyone on their righteousness for any reason, even homosexuality. It is not for any person or persons to force God's will on the people. It is up to God to judge the people when the time comes. End of story.
So, to all you who are against gay marriage, vote against it, speak against it, etc, etc, you are all judging. You are all trying to make God's word and Jesus' teaching a part of the world and, anyone who truly studies Jesus knows his followers are NOT to be part of this world.
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08-24-2012, 07:48 AM
#102
I'm still so confused why people think that proving the bible says homosexuality is wrong has any bearing on the topic of the government having laws against recognizing gay marriage.
It doesn't; and the people that use that argument are only trying to validate their own feelings about the subject. In their mind, if the bible says their opinion is right then they must be right.
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08-24-2012, 08:03 AM
#103
It doesn't; and the people that use that argument are only trying to validate their own feelings about the subject. In their mind, if the bible says their opinion is right then they must be right.
My point exactly. If people want to have all of their laws based on the bible at least be consistent about it. They should also be infavor of closing all business on the sabbath day as well as outlawing pork and shellfish.
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08-24-2012, 01:37 PM
#104
BANNED

Dru, I hate to defend jesse, but he should be using a different Bible...
1 Corinthians 6: 9-11
which one to suit who's taste, there are over 100 different versions of the bible that I know of when doing research and possible thousands worldwide.
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08-24-2012, 01:39 PM
#105
which one to suit who's taste, there are over 100 different versions of the bible that I know of when doing research and possible thousands worldwide.
It's pretty clear what the passage is and means. I gave you three versions that say homosexual acts are a sin as defined by the Bible. Any other translation is just wrong, plain and simple.
Again, it is not an argument against gay marriage or for laws against homosexuality. Anyone who tries to do so is making Jesus a part of this world, and followers of Jesus are not to be a part of this world, so I don't see how his teachings should be the laws of this world.
Last edited by Wickabee; 08-24-2012 at 02:00 PM.
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08-24-2012, 01:54 PM
#106
But hey, let's do this.
Same passage from:

Originally Posted by
Amplified Bible
9 Do you not know that the unrighteous and the wrongdoers will not inherit or have any share in the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived (misled): neither the impure and immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor those who participate in homosexuality...

Originally Posted by
Common English Bible
9 Don’t you know that people who are unjust won’t inherit God’s kingdom? Don’t be deceived. Those who are sexually immoral, those who worship false gods, adulterers, both participants in same-sex intercourse...

Originally Posted by
Complete Jewish Bible
9 Don’t you know that unrighteous people will have no share in the Kingdom of God? Don’t delude yourselves — people who engage in sex before marriage, who worship idols, who engage in sex after marriage with someone other than their spouse, who engage in active or passive homosexuality...

Originally Posted by
Contemporary English Version
9 Don’t you know that evil people won’t have a share in the blessings of God’s kingdom? Don’t fool yourselves! No one who is immoral or worships idols or is unfaithful in marriage or is a pervert or behaves like a homosexual...

Originally Posted by
Easy To Read Version
Surely you know that people who do wrong will not get to enjoy God’s kingdom. Don’t be fooled. These are the people who will not get to enjoy his kingdom: those who sin sexually, those who worship idols, those who commit adultery, men who let other men use them for sex or who have sex with other men...

Originally Posted by
English Standard
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous
[a] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers,
nor men who practice homosexuality...

Originally Posted by
English Standard Anglised
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous
[a] will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers,
nor men who practise homosexuality...

Originally Posted by
GOD'S WORD Translation
9 Don’t you know that wicked people won’t inherit the kingdom of God? Stop deceiving yourselves! People who continue to commit sexual sins, who worship false gods, those who commit adultery, homosexuals...

Originally Posted by
Good News Translation
9 Surely you know that the wicked will not possess God's Kingdom. Do not fool yourselves; people who are immoral or who worship idols or are adulterers or homosexual perverts...

Originally Posted by
Holman Christian Standard
9 Don’t you know that the unrighteous will not inherit God’s kingdom? Do not be deceived: No sexually immoral people, idolaters, adulterers, or anyone practicing homosexuality...

Originally Posted by
Lexham English Bible
9 Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived! Neither sexually immoral people, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor passive homosexual partners, nor dominant homosexual partners...
Do I really need to continue?
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08-24-2012, 01:57 PM
#107
Then we have Romans 1: 26, 27
From the King James
26 For this cause God gave them up unto vile affections: for even their women did change the natural use into that which is against nature:
27 And likewise also the men, leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust one toward another; men with men working that which is unseemly, and receiving in themselves that recompence of their error which was meet.
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