Homosexuality in the New Testament

[theonedru]

So you would be happy under sharia law? They execute homos. So much for a religion of peace. Christians just call them to repentance in Christ Jesus to escape eternal separation from God.

I see your posts daily and truly wonder what you really know of Christianity. In fact I highly doubt your religious convictions because a true Christian would never ever resort to the level you do, your rantings are more in line with a lot of hate groups rhetoric .. Just because I call myself a potato doesn't mean I would make great potato salad.

*I did not call you a hate monger I just said your thoughts were in line with their beliefs more so than real Christians (posting this so he cannot twist my words)

[theonedru]

I write this because many people say that Jesus did not speak against homosexuality, and therefore, He was not against it. I write this to show evidence to the contrary.

Matthew 19:4-6

4 And he answered and said unto them, Have ye not read, that he which made them at the beginning made them male and female, 5 And said, For this cause shall a man leave father and mother, and shall cleave to his wife: and they twain shall be one flesh? 6 Wherefore they are no more twain, but one flesh. What therefore God hath joined together, let not man put asunder.


Luke 17:28-30

28 Likewise also as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold, they planted, they builded; 29 But the same day that Lot went out of Sodom it rained fire and brimstone from heaven, and destroyed them all. 30 Even thus shall it be in the day when the Son of man is revealed.

and Jesus' Word on the Old Testament

John 5:46-47

46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

This shows that Jesus does not condemn the Law of Moses, or replace it; but Fulfills it. Yes, He gave us greater commandments: To love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind; and to love your neighbor as yourself. But this does not diminish the consequences for behavior that God called, "an abomination". And this includes cross-dressing, incest, and bestiality.

You can say you don't believe that God is this or that, but you cannot change what His Word says. You are inventing your own interpretation of what God is, and by doing this, you are creating your own god. The First Commandment is: I AM the Lord thy God, thou shalt have no other gods before Me.

Homosexuality in the rest of the New Testament:

Jude 6-8

6 And the angels which kept not their first estate, but left their own habitation, he hath reserved in everlasting chains under darkness unto the judgment of the great day. 7 Even as Sodom and Gomorrha, and the cities about them in like manner, giving themselves over to fornication, and going after strange flesh, are set forth for an example, suffering the vengeance of eternal fire. 8 Likewise also these filthy dreamers defile the flesh, despise dominion, and speak evil of dignities.

1 Corinthians 6:9-11

9 Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind(homosexuals), 10 Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. 11 And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

I mean these quotes relate in no way to homosexuality in any way shape or form except that you say they do which doesn't lay any merit to the words themselves

[theonedru]

John 5:46-47

46 For had ye believed Moses, ye would have believed me; for he wrote of me. 47 But if ye believe not his writings, how shall ye believe my words?

This shows that Jesus does not condemn the Law of Moses, or replace it; but Fulfills it. Yes, He gave us greater commandments: To love the Lord your God with all your heart, all your soul, and all your mind; and to love your neighbor as yourself. But this does not diminish the consequences for behavior that God called, "an abomination". And this includes cross-dressing, incest, and bestiality.

You can say you don't believe that God is this or that, but you cannot change what His Word says. You are inventing your own interpretation of what God is, and by doing this, you are creating your own god. The First Commandment is: I AM the Lord thy God, thou shalt have no other gods before Me.

and this is the coup de grace. I mean how can you write this and then say what you say claiming what you claim. Thats hypocrisy at its finest. By posting this you have shown us all that everything you say is a joke because what you spew is not what you believe.

[Wickabee]

Dru, I hate to defend jesse, but he should be using a different Bible...

1 Corinthians 6: 9-11

⁹ Or do you not know that the unrighteous will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: neither the sexually immoral, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor men who practice homosexuality,
¹⁰ nor thieves, nor the greedy, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
¹¹ And such were some of you. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

⁹ Or do you not know that wrongdoers will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor men who have sex with men
¹⁰ nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.
¹¹ And that is what some of you were. But you were washed, you were sanctified, you were justified in the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

⁹ Don’t you realize that those who do wrong will not inherit the Kingdom of God? Don’t fool yourselves. Those who indulge in sexual sin, or who worship idols, or commit adultery, or are male prostitutes, or practice homosexuality,
¹⁰ or are thieves, or greedy people, or drunkards, or are abusive, or cheat people—none of these will inherit the Kingdom of God.
¹¹ Some of you were once like that. But you were cleansed; you were made holy; you were made right with God by calling on the name of the Lord Jesus Christ and by the Spirit of our God.

[shrewsbury]

wickabee, i am impressed!!!!!!!!!!!

[Wickabee]

wickabee, i am impressed!!!!!!!!!!!

By what, I wonder? Is it the fact I...

A - ...am not talking out of my but when I speak about the Bible?
B - ...will quote scripture that does go against what my perceived beliefs are?
C - ...defended jesse?
D - ...all of the above?
E - ...can fold the top part of my left ear inside out?

[pspstatus]

By what, I wonder? Is it the fact I...

A - ...am not talking out of my but when I speak about the Bible?
B - ...will quote scripture that does go against what my perceived beliefs are?
C - ...defended jesse?
D - ...all of the above?
E - ...can fold the top part of my left ear inside out?

I choose F- All of the above, except C.

[theonedru]

Dru, I hate to defend jesse, but he should be using a different Bible...

1 Corinthians 6: 9-11

And we have another rip in the page brought forth by Wickabee. The fact that there are numerous interpretations of said bible. Just more proof as to why we cannot believe much said in it.

[Wickabee]

And we have another rip in the page brought forth by Wickabee. The fact that there are numerous interpretations of said bible. Just more proof as to why we cannot believe much said in it.

The interpretations are the same, except for the King James that jesse is using. The NT does speak against homosexuality here. I'm sorry, but you're wrong on this one.

That isn't to say it's an argument against gay marriage and, as I was once told by a very faithful Christian, while it may be up in the air whether Jesus himself said anything about homosexuality, he never once said anything about homosexuals.
As such, I highly doubt that denying them the right to marry by secular definition would matter one iota to Jesus, or God.
Do I think homosexuality is a sin as defined by the bible? Yes. Do I think that has anything to do with what our laws are? Not one bit. No one is forcing you to be homosexual and it is not for you to judge anyone on their righteousness for any reason, even homosexuality. It is not for any person or persons to force God's will on the people. It is up to God to judge the people when the time comes. End of story.
So, to all you who are against gay marriage, vote against it, speak against it, etc, etc, you are all judging. You are all trying to make God's word and Jesus' teaching a part of the world and, anyone who truly studies Jesus knows his followers are NOT to be part of this world.

[Star_Cards]

I'm still so confused why people think that proving the bible says homosexuality is wrong has any bearing on the topic of the government having laws against recognizing gay marriage.