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Serious questio here. Is it right to impose religious beliefs as law when no national religion can be established? Or does it make more sense to just follow God's law yourself, regardless of secular law?
It is not imposing religious beliefs, it has been custom for thousands of years, and gay marriage is unnatural to say the least. It is gays imposing their belief onto everyone else by not accepting civil unions.
Like it or not, the Bible clearly says what happens to the nations that allow this type of behavior. The westboro baptist nuts are picketing the totally wrong places, as they should be picketing gay establishments, not honorable straight soldiers' funerals. It makes no since.
On top of that, they protest in hatred, instead of showing Christ's love for sinners and showing His call for repentance in a tasteful way.
But I digress....
Atheists imposed their religious beliefs on everyone else by having prayer removed from school, the 10 Commandments removed from courthouses, and Crosses removed.from public lands.
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Nope....America hasn't. So no, there isn't equality by any definition.
Ummmm.....yes they did. gays have rejected civil unions, and only want to impose their definition of marriage on the rest of the country. 6% of the population dictating to the 94% because they are loud and make a scene, and the media and sewer pipe t.v. glamorize it.
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I feel that a person can believe and be faithful in their religion and still be aware that there are other beliefs out there and be respectful of that. Recognizing that there are other religions and other forms of beliefs and that we shouldn't make laws based on one single way doesn't mean that you compromise your specific belief.
I'm not sure why you say that not having any one single religion form our countries laws is putting a belief over another. I also believe that people void of religion shouldn't make laws that would hinder a specific religious belief.
To me I think this is one of the major hurdles that christians have issue with. They feel that if the laws aren't governed by their religion then they are being forced to live by a different set of religious beliefs. That simply isn't true. Allowing gays to marry will have zero bearing on their lives or their religious beliefs. They will go on the same way as they always have. There are plenty of legal things that different religions have problems with from alcohol, birth control, pork, non kosher food, and so on, but we don't outlaw it because a religion has an issue with it. They just don't take part. If a church doesn't want to marry two men or two women, then they can choose not to. No law recognizing same sex marriage would ever force a specific church to perform wedding services.
your way off base. Jews aren't outlawing pork, Christians aren't outlawing gay marriage, they gave them civil unions, but gays reject that.
Prayer in schools did not force all kids to pray, in fact, atheists have gone as far as to ban prayer at the flagpole before class. Now is that letting a religion have their prayer?
It harmed the atheist nothing to put headphones on during prayer, and it harms atheists nothing to display the 10 Commandments from courthouses. They are unlawfully banning Christians from their free exercise of Religion.
But you don't see atheists filing lawsuits through the aclu against the 30-50 court cases where shariah law was cited as the reason for ruling now do you. Would atheists file suits if schools started using halal meat in schools?
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THAT IS RIDICULOUS!
BTW, did you know that before 1967....it was ILLEGAL to have interracial marriages in many U.S states???
I guess Interracial couples were also "rejecting equality" and wanted to "impose their definition of marriage"?
Red herring. Stay on topic please, nobody brought race into this because this has absolutely nothing to do with race, racism, or the like.
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Legally recognized same-sex unions (whether marriage, civil unions, domestic partnerships, or reciprocal beneficiary relationships) can be formed in only eighteen states, but none of them are recognized under federal law. Therefore the comment of "America gave gays the.oppurtunity to have the full rights of marriage in a civil union" is incorrect.
Furthermore, 29 states have an outright ban on it via their constitution or a state statute.
I did not mean the federal government gave gays civil unions. gays are suing the federal govt. to have their definition of marriage shoved down everyone's throat at a national level because civil unions are not their objective. It fits in line with atheist and other liberal groups' intent to wipe Christianity out of the public eye. They are actively trying to prevent Christians from freely expressing their religion, which is their Constitutional right.
civil union has been rejected by gays. They want to impose their definition of marriage onto the the common Religious definition of marriage as it has stood since the.dawn of man.
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We pretty much have a defacto national religion.
Your right: atheism. They have removed prayer from schools, the 10 Commandments from courthouses, Crosses from public lands, "In God We Trust" from the face of money onto the sides where it will wear off, and obama says we are not a Christian nation.
To top it off, sharia law has been cited on over 50 cases as the basis for ruling, bypassing our Constitution all together. It will be an islamic nation once they outbreed everyone else, which is what they have done/are doing in every European nation.
Over the past 50 years, you can follow the decline of America with it's forsaking of God. Either there will be Revival, and America will become great again, or we will continue to crumble under God's judgement until our once great nation lays in the boneyard of the other empires of the world.
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your way off base. Jews aren't outlawing pork, Christians aren't outlawing gay marriage, they gave them civil unions, but gays reject that.
Prayer in schools did not force all kids to pray, in fact, atheists have gone as far as to ban prayer at the flagpole before class. Now is that letting a religion have their prayer?
It harmed the atheist nothing to put headphones on during prayer, and it harms atheists nothing to display the 10 Commandments from courthouses. They are unlawfully banning Christians from their free exercise of Religion.
But you don't see atheists filing lawsuits through the aclu against the 30-50 court cases where shariah law was cited as the reason for ruling now do you. Would atheists file suits if schools started using halal meat in schools?
Your arrogance knows no bounds. Christians gave gays civil unions did they? That's awfully charitable of you.
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Your right: atheism. They have removed prayer from schools, the 10 Commandments from courthouses, Crosses from public lands, "In God We Trust" from the face of money onto the sides where it will wear off, and obama says we are not a Christian nation.
To top it off, sharia law has been cited on over 50 cases as the basis for ruling, bypassing our Constitution all together. It will be an islamic nation once they outbreed everyone else, which is what they have done/are doing in every European nation.
Over the past 50 years, you can follow the decline of America with it's forsaking of God. Either there will be Revival, and America will become great again, or we will continue to crumble under God's judgement until our once great nation lays in the boneyard of the other empires of the world.
What are you a racist? You have a problem with a certain segment of the population "outbreeding" you? You can't be serious. What kind of a christian are you? The WORST kind for sure.
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Your right: atheism. They have removed prayer from schools, the 10 Commandments from courthouses, Crosses from public lands, "In God We Trust" from the face of money onto the sides where it will wear off, and obama says we are not a Christian nation.
To top it off, sharia law has been cited on over 50 cases as the basis for ruling, bypassing our Constitution all together. It will be an islamic nation once they outbreed everyone else, which is what they have done/are doing in every European nation.
Over the past 50 years, you can follow the decline of America with it's forsaking of God. Either there will be Revival, and America will become great again, or we will continue to crumble under God's judgement until our once great nation lays in the boneyard of the other empires of the world.
Basically you will never be happy until your warped version of Christianity is the law of the land and everyone regardless is made to obey it.. How Christian of you, Jesus would be proud
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It is not imposing religious beliefs, it has been custom for thousands of years, and gay marriage is unnatural to say the least. It is gays imposing their belief onto everyone else by not accepting civil unions.
Like it or not, the Bible clearly says what happens to the nations that allow this type of behavior. The westboro baptist nuts are picketing the totally wrong places, as they should be picketing gay establishments, not honorable straight soldiers' funerals. It makes no since.
On top of that, they protest in hatred, instead of showing Christ's love for sinners and showing His call for repentance in a tasteful way.
But I digress....
Atheists imposed their religious beliefs on everyone else by having prayer removed from school, the 10 Commandments removed from courthouses, and Crosses removed.from public lands.
If gay marriage becomes legal, you don't have to marry another guy. How is it imposing on you?
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