Gun Control?

[ajcorleone]

You do realize that there was a now banned website with super market available items to make a bomb? It was Macguyver type stuff but it did exist.So don;t think that it is just licensed fertilizer that can do damage

You can't buy the fertilizer he used unless you have a special license...once that happened they outlawed it...but it's also not something that will be around even after a ban like guns would be. Once used, the fertilizer is gone but guns will always be around no matter what you do.

[greg271126817]

Originally Posted by mrveggieman
I agree with you on the hunting part. Killing animals for sport or any other reason is just plain sick in my book. I am not afraid of animals but do wonder what is on some people's mind. I hope and pray that nothing ever happens where I have to use a gun but it is always good to have on just in case. A man's home is his castle and a man must defend his castle and family by any means neccessary.

I can not say the same for myself. People need to kill animals for food. I know some dont eat meat for whatever reason thats their choice. I dont think its OK to kill animals for no reason, but if it is for food i am all for it.

And if anyone sneaks in your house at night are you going to be able to get to your locked gun cabinet/safe (if its even near you) before the person who is already armed gets to you? Seriously? the only way I could see a gun being handy is if its unlocked, and close by. Which is unsafe, especially if you have children. Are you people really this paranoid? You'd be better off getting your family out of the house then trying to stumble around and get a firearm and hope you get off the first shot.

Just depends on how you are set up. If you have the safe in your room and can open it fast you never know. In my home someone would have to get in my front door, get up some steps, past a locked child gate and to my room before i can wake up, open my safe in my room and thats it, im ready. But its not just about protecting your home. If you have a carry licence this can help anywhere you go. people in this world are crazy and there are bad neighborhoods to go to. Carrying a weapon can prevent people from robbing on the streets, taking your car, or where ever it may be. My brother was a victim of in home robbery and was murdered along with my cousin. He didn't live in the best area, but that's what he could afford. Unfortuanetly this was someone he trusted and not even someone breaking in and shooting. So you just never know what can happen at any time. Anybody can be a bad person, you just never know who you can and cant trust, so making it harder to get guns or banning them or whatever people want to do is not really gonna matter. you just can not weed out all the bad people no matter what you do. What would happen if someone was denied access to guns, but then was shot and killed. Who would be to blame for that one since he was denied the access weapons to protect himself? This is not meant to fight with you, or anybody else. Im just stating some opinions and giving different views on the subject

[maccards44]

But, by the logic I'm seeing here, we should abolish drivers licences because criminals will always get their hands on a car, so licencing drivers is punishing law abiding citizens.

I'll take it the extra step...by the logic I'm seeing here:

There is NO point in having any laws against (FILL IN THE BLANK)
Because WE ALL KNOW people will still committ (FILL IN THE BLANK)

Changes in laws (like gun control) would be meant to decrease mass shootings like this, not stop them.
Nothing will STOP them -- but that doesn't mean we should do nothing to try to decrease them.

[BGT Masters]

I'll take it the extra step...by the logic I'm seeing here:

There is NO point in having any laws against (FILL IN THE BLANK)
Because WE ALL KNOW people will still committ (FILL IN THE BLANK)

Changes in laws (like gun control) would be meant to decrease mass shootings like this, not stop them.
Nothing will STOP them -- but that doesn't mean we should do nothing to try to decrease them.

Sorry I have to gather myself. I am shocked I actually just read some common sense on this thread.

[ajcorleone]

I second that

Sorry I have to gather myself. I am shocked I actually just read some common sense on this thread.

[tpeichel]

This country has always had lots of guns but we haven't had the problems with mass shootings until the last 25-30 years.

Figure out what has changed and fix it. My gut feeling is that we're medicating our kids too much. Sure these drugs help some people, but the side effects are horrible and each person reacts differently. General practitioners should not be putting kids on these drugs, this should only be psychiatrists that closely monitor how the child or adolescent reacts to the drug. Just look at these side effects that have been reported by the FDA.

Luvox, Paxil and Zoloft are in a class of drugs called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). Among the international regulatory agencies issuing warnings on these antidepressants, the FDA issued a Public Health Advisory in 2004 warning that “anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, impulsivity, akathisia [severe restlessness], hypomania [abnormal excitement] and mania [psychosis characterized by exalted feelings, delusions of grandeur and overproduction of ideas] have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants.”

[ajcorleone]

This is something that needs addressed.But not all these monsters are on medications.We just have so many problems it has to be looked at from every angle

This country has always had lots of guns but we haven't had the problems with mass shootings until the last 25-30 years.

Figure out what has changed and fix it. My gut feeling is that we're medicating our kids too much. Sure these drugs help some people, but the side effects are horrible and each person reacts differently. General practitioners should not be putting kids on these drugs, this should only be psychiatrists that closely monitor how the child or adolescent reacts to the drug. Just look at these side effects that have been reported by the FDA.

Luvox, Paxil and Zoloft are in a class of drugs called selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors (SSRIs). Among the international regulatory agencies issuing warnings on these antidepressants, the FDA issued a Public Health Advisory in 2004 warning that “anxiety, agitation, panic attacks, insomnia, irritability, hostility, impulsivity, akathisia [severe restlessness], hypomania [abnormal excitement] and mania [psychosis characterized by exalted feelings, delusions of grandeur and overproduction of ideas] have been reported in adult and pediatric patients being treated with antidepressants.”

[maccards44]

I think in a time of need guns would be more valuable than cards or other collectibles would be. At least if someone is trying to kill you with a gun or other weapon you would be able to defend yourself. Unless you think you have a good chance of doing that throwing cards.

Forget defending yourself! Now you have to defend that low subgrade for the worn corners.
"This card would TOTALLY have graded a 9, but i had to throw it at this dude with a gun so, yeah, it's like a 5 now..."

[Wickabee]

This is something that needs addressed.But not all these monsters are on medications.We just have so many problems it has to be looked at from every angle

Actually, the more I've been thinking about that aspect, the more I think drugging kids, for lack of a better term, could be a huge part of it.

[boba]

I was actually about to post about how drugs play a part in all this, but lost interest in the thread. A lot of people think that helping the sanity of people and giving them help involves strong drugs. A lot of the time, it makes the problem worse or has an effect that is even worse then the problem it was meant to cure. Just as an example, I know for a fact antidepressants can have a terrible effect.