Signs?MEME's and the like!

[MadMan1978]

[MadMan1978]

[MadMan1978]

[duane1969]

Nooooo, but then he didn't have to, he ensured Carter's loss by having the release of the American hostages in Iran delayed until 20 minutes after his inaugural address, and PRESTO it was A New Day In America. And then he went and raised your taxes 11 times. Joke's on youuuuuuuuu!!!!!

Wait, let me see if I get this. It is your assertion that Reagan was performing acts as president, was in control of international policy and negotiations and negotiated the hostage release and had it all timed out BEFORE he was even president. I don't know what idiot liberal website you got that tripe from, but you should think long and hard about just how monumentally ignorant that information that they provided to you is.

And yes, he raised taxes some, he also reduced some of his original tax increases (I am sure you favorite liberal website doesn't mention that). He also produced an annual job growth rate 0f 2.1% and ended his presidency with an unemployment rate of 5.4% and a poverty rate that dropped a total of 1.2% during his presidency and 3.3% from it's peak right after he took office.

Also during his presidency, the top 10% of wage earners paid an increased share of tax revenue while the lowest earning 50% paid a reduced share of the tax revenue...isn't that what all liberals want?

[JustAlex]

^The REAL FACTS on abortion.

And here are the stands of Liberal vs. Conservative on abortion:

LIBERAL: We believe that the right of HUMANS (in this case women) trump the right of a non-viable fetus who does NOT have personhood, this claim is backed up by SCIENCE!

CONSERVATIVE: While a lot of them are indeed sincere in their rationale that they truly want to protect unborn humans.....their logic is extremely flawed. They want to IMPOSE their morality and their fake science down our throats.

[87sluggo]

From Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October...spiracy_theory

Maybe the authors are liberal conspiracist nutbags, maybe not. Hell of a co-incidence tho..................

• March 1980: Jamshid Hashimi, international arms dealer, is visited by William Casey at Washington's Mayflower Hotel, who asks that a meeting be arranged with "someone in Iran who had authority to deal on the hostages".
• March 21, 1980: Jamshid Hashimi and his brother Cyrus Hashimi meet at the latter's home.
• April 1980: Donald Gregg, a National Security Council aide with connections to George Herbert Walker Bush, meets Cyrus Hashimi in New York's Shazam restaurant, near Hashimi's bank. Former Iranian President Bani-Sadr said in his 1991 book My Turn to Speak that he had "proof of contacts between Khomeini and the supporters of Ronald Reagan as early as the spring of 1980.... Rafsanjani, Beheshti, and Ahmed Khomeini [the Ayatollah's son] played key roles."
• Last week of July 1980: At a meeting in Madrid arranged by the Hashimi brothers that includes Robert Gray, a man identified as Donald Gregg, and Mahdi Karrubi, William Casey says that if Iran could assure that American hostages were well treated until their release and were released as a "gift" to the new administration, "the Republicans would be most grateful and 'would give Iran its strength back.'" Karrubi says he has "no authority to make such a commitment."
• About August 12, 1980: Karrubi meets again with Casey, saying Khomeini has agreed to the proposal. Casey agrees the next day, naming Cyrus Hashimi as middleman to handle the arms transactions. More meetings are set for October. Cyrus Hashimi purchases a Greek ship and commences arms deliveries valued at $150 million from the Israeli port of Eilat to Bandar Abbas. According to CIA sources, Hashimi receives a $7 million commission. Casey is said to use an aide named Tom Carter in the negotiations.
• September 22, 1980: Iraq invades Iran.
• Late September 1980: An expatriate Iranian arms dealer named Hushang Lavi claims he met with Richard V. Allen, the Reagan campaign's national security expert, Robert "Bud" McFarlane, and Lawrence Silberman, and discussed the possible exchange of F-4 parts for American hostages, but Lavi says they asserted they "were already in touch with the Iranians themselves". (Silberman, Allen, and McFarlane deny they met with Lavi, but reporter Robert Parry obtained a copy of Lavi's 1980 calendar after Lavi's death, which corroborated the Iranian's account.)
• October 15–20: Meetings are held in Paris between emissaries of the Reagan/Bush campaign, with Mr. William Casey as "key participant", and "high-level Iranian and Israeli representatives".
• October 21: Iran, for reasons not explained, abruptly shifts its position in secret negotiations with the Carter administration and disclaims "further interest in receiving military equipment"
• October 21–23: Israel secretly ships F-4 fighter-aircraft tires to Iran, in violation of the U.S. arms embargo, and Iran disperses the hostages to different locations.
• January 20, 1981: Hostages are formally released into United States custody after spending 444 days in captivity. The release takes place just minutes after Ronald Reagan is sworn in as president.

[duane1969]

Why blame a man that is guilty of only one thing. Not backing the Shah of Iran, or taking Muslim Clerics seriously enough. I don't know why Reagan is the patron saint of Republicans, he was less effective than G.H. Bush as a President, and didn't come close to Gerald Ford in anything.

So you admit you know nothing about the Carter presidency...

Your homework assignment for today is to look up the following terms:
- Carter's response to stagflation
- energy crisis
- Carter's relationship with Congress
- Panama Canal Treaties
- Soviet Wheat Deal

[Wickabee]

Do we owe them free electricity, heating, cable, telephone, internet, water & sewage, trash pickup, lawn care, building maintenance and property taxes too, or is this some typically poorly thought-out liberal ideal that if we just give every homeless person a free house that the homeless problem will suddenly be solved?

Well, they are the homeless, not the electricyless or heatingless or cableless or telephoneless or internetless or waterless or...


So, yeah.

[MadMan1978]

looks like he is part of the Cheney Family?
lol

[duane1969]

From Wikipedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/October...spiracy_theory

Maybe the authors are liberal conspiracist nutbags, maybe not. Hell of a co-incidence tho..................

• March 1980: Jamshid Hashimi, international arms dealer, is visited by William Casey at Washington's Mayflower Hotel, who asks that a meeting be arranged with "someone in Iran who had authority to deal on the hostages".
• March 21, 1980: Jamshid Hashimi and his brother Cyrus Hashimi meet at the latter's home.
• April 1980: Donald Gregg, a National Security Council aide with connections to George Herbert Walker Bush, meets Cyrus Hashimi in New York's Shazam restaurant, near Hashimi's bank. Former Iranian President Bani-Sadr said in his 1991 book My Turn to Speak that he had "proof of contacts between Khomeini and the supporters of Ronald Reagan as early as the spring of 1980.... Rafsanjani, Beheshti, and Ahmed Khomeini [the Ayatollah's son] played key roles."
• Last week of July 1980: At a meeting in Madrid arranged by the Hashimi brothers that includes Robert Gray, a man identified as Donald Gregg, and Mahdi Karrubi, William Casey says that if Iran could assure that American hostages were well treated until their release and were released as a "gift" to the new administration, "the Republicans would be most grateful and 'would give Iran its strength back.'" Karrubi says he has "no authority to make such a commitment."
• About August 12, 1980: Karrubi meets again with Casey, saying Khomeini has agreed to the proposal. Casey agrees the next day, naming Cyrus Hashimi as middleman to handle the arms transactions. More meetings are set for October. Cyrus Hashimi purchases a Greek ship and commences arms deliveries valued at $150 million from the Israeli port of Eilat to Bandar Abbas. According to CIA sources, Hashimi receives a $7 million commission. Casey is said to use an aide named Tom Carter in the negotiations.
• September 22, 1980: Iraq invades Iran.
• Late September 1980: An expatriate Iranian arms dealer named Hushang Lavi claims he met with Richard V. Allen, the Reagan campaign's national security expert, Robert "Bud" McFarlane, and Lawrence Silberman, and discussed the possible exchange of F-4 parts for American hostages, but Lavi says they asserted they "were already in touch with the Iranians themselves". (Silberman, Allen, and McFarlane deny they met with Lavi, but reporter Robert Parry obtained a copy of Lavi's 1980 calendar after Lavi's death, which corroborated the Iranian's account.)
• October 15–20: Meetings are held in Paris between emissaries of the Reagan/Bush campaign, with Mr. William Casey as "key participant", and "high-level Iranian and Israeli representatives".
• October 21: Iran, for reasons not explained, abruptly shifts its position in secret negotiations with the Carter administration and disclaims "further interest in receiving military equipment"
• October 21–23: Israel secretly ships F-4 fighter-aircraft tires to Iran, in violation of the U.S. arms embargo, and Iran disperses the hostages to different locations.
• January 20, 1981: Hostages are formally released into United States custody after spending 444 days in captivity. The release takes place just minutes after Ronald Reagan is sworn in as president.

If you are using Wikipedia as your source of accuracy then you are in worse shape than I thought. For point of reference, Carter actually negotiated the release of the hostages, but the Iranians refused to follow through with the release agreement until they realized that Reagan was taking office and had already stated that he would use forcible action to get them freed after he took office. Carter's role in the negotiation was recognized by Reagan when he invited Carter to come with him to Germany to greet the newly released hostages.

Oh, and NOWHERE in what you quoted does it say that Reagan timed their release to happen after he took office...