Question for debt Hawks....

[sanfran22]

Uh.. actually they say it was wrong because all the evidence was a lie and Bush committed a war crime he will never be held responsible for. And no... Al Gore wouldn't have done the same. Clinton had a chance to invade Iraq in 1998 and choose not to do so because there was no proof of WMD's.. people love to forget that.

Lol, man you gotta stop going to the KOS it's posioning you. We don't know what's a lie or not. We know most everyone believed the intelligence at the time. How do you know Gore would not have done it? We got our buildings blown up... Clinton is a pansy, that's why he fired a couple of scud missiles and called it a day. If you think Hussein didn't have wmds at some point, I have a bridge in Canada to sell you.

[Imac7065]

Lol, man you gotta stop going to the KOS it's posioning you. We don't know what's a lie or not. We know most everyone believed the intelligence at the time. How do you know Gore would not have done it? We got our buildings blown up... Clinton is a pansy, that's why he fired a couple of scud missiles and called it a day. If you think Hussein didn't have wmds at some point, I have a bridge in Canada to sell you.

I don't even know what "KOS" is sorry... I do know however that Bush sent in his own inspectors following the invasion.. they found nothing

I know that Valerie Plame's husband was told to forge evidence from Africa, and when he refused his wife's undercover ID was exposed by Dick Cheney and his cronies

I know that Richard Clark quit because he was the only one in the administration to say over and over Iraq has nothing to do with 9/11 and they have no WMD's

I know on 9/12/2001 Donald Rumsfeld ordered his office to find a connection between Sadam Hussein and 9/11


this is history, not propaganda..

[duane1969]

The military is part of the government.. you are aware of this yes? I know "conservatives" are oblivious on this one.. but being pro "strong military" is actually a liberal position. Military based communities are government sponsored communities. I'm not sure how you could spin this any other way.

I actually laughed out loud when I read this...

[Imac7065]

I actually laughed out loud when I read this...

because you have bought into the post nixon dogma of the neo con right.. the historical right has hated war and shares the positions of Ron Paul..

Tedy Roosevelt was a liberal who loved war
FDR was a liberal who loved war
LBJ was a liberal who loved war

etc etc etc

think for a moment.. who has led this country during its strongest military needs? Liberals lol... Washington, Lincoln, Wilson, FDR, Johnson, even Eisenhower leaned left.

The only conservative lead war was the war of 1812.. and if you know anything about that war.. biggest cluster bleep in history lol

the idea of spending government money on a strong military is the most anti conservative ideal there is. You know what is a conservative ideal ironically? Letting a woman choose her own path in life (IE abortion)

This is why Ron Paul is always screaming that he's the only true conservative in the republican party.. he's right lol

[sanfran22]

He presented congress with an order to attack Bin Laden in 1998... they said if he did it they would accuse him of "wagging the dog" to distract from Monica Lewinsky.. your comment actually offends me as I am originally from NY and my Uncle was scheduled to be in the towers the following day. I myself was in the towers nearly a year to the day before it happened.


Clinton also made his entire presidential exit/entrance interview with bush about Bin Laden and Al Queda.. he warned him that they would be the biggest issue this country faces over the next 10 years.

Bush's response? He went on vacation for 8 months of his first year in office, and when presented with intel labeled "bin laden primed to attack the united states".. he went on vacation again.

So as I said.. your response offends me.

He had an offer for Bin Laden and then let him go. He dropped the ball several times....
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...ave-killed-bin

[GroundSupport]

I wasn't responding to your debate.. I was responding to you being pro military communities like Jacksonville, NC... that flies in the face of everything else you have posted.

Once again, your clueless on what you talking about. I never once said my stance on anything other than those wars created tons of jobs..

[Imac7065]

He had an offer for Bin Laden and then let him go. He dropped the ball several times....
http://newsbusters.org/blogs/noel-sh...ave-killed-bin

again.. I was going on Clinton's own words.. he said congress prevented him.. said it was about lewinsky, and that they used collateral damage as an excuse in public.

[Imac7065]

Once again, your clueless on what you talking about. I never once said my stance on anything other than those wars created tons of jobs..

jobs created by......

[sanfran22]

woah woah woah.... you can't have it both ways buddy lol.. Reagan fought congress because they wanted to block him from spending more and raising the debt. Reagan raised taxes 7 times to pay for his "limited government" as well.

You can't give Reagan credit, then say Obama has done nothing on the flip side either lol. The majority of Obama's presidency has been cleaning up after bush.. and the right still hates him for it. The Deficit is tumbling because we stopped spending.. at all.. after 2010-11.. on the negative side of that the debt keeps going up.. because we're not spending.. at all. There is no growth in this country, and thus we pay nearly 100% debt to GDP. We need new infrastructure, jobs, education, sciences.. we need prosperity. Republicans will have none of it and will just blame Obama for the debt they racked up in the first place.

And before you say it.. the 6-7 trillion added to the debt since Obama took office was in response to what happened in 2007-08.. the debt has slowed to a crawl in the last 2 years. It's pathetic that it still hits ceilings though.

Never gave it to you both ways. Reagan compromised, point of fact. He allowed taxes to raise as part of that compromise. Under Bush, he allowed many things as well. Things that Obama was for. Things I would personally disagree with ( the war was not one of them, and it added a ton of debt to this country). I just find it funny that you are pro Obama and blame everything on Bush when Obama was in congress and had a vote.

[Imac7065]

Never gave it to you both ways. Reagan compromised, point of fact. He allowed taxes to raise as part of that compromise. Under Bush, he allowed many things as well. Things that Obama was for. Things I would personally disagree with ( the war was not one of them, and it added a ton of debt to this country). I just find it funny that you are pro Obama and blame everything on Bush when Obama was in congress and had a vote.

They "allowed" and "compromised" huh... are republicans responsible for any actions they take out of curiosity?