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    that crap can wait? really? wait for what?
    does Obama have to read this thread before he does something?

    For when you talk about Obama to tell people not to vote for Hillary. The question is what should be done. You're worried about who said what 2 years ago and making sure to get your "I told you so!" in there. There will be time for that when this is over. Right now, it's kind of sickening, especially from people I thought were better than that.

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    that crap can wait? really? wait for what?
    does Obama have to read this thread before he does something?

    Again, what should Obama do? You won't answer of course, but I would bet the farm that as soon as he does act, you will be right up there in front leading the charge to say how what he did was the wrong thing to do.

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    Who cares about Obama, christ, that's all you debate on, "I'm republican, you are democrat, let's bang eachother in the head" (and vice versa). I don't think USA should be involved no, and to hear from Kerry a country's sovereignty should not be violated is to hear an echo of Putin when he said the same thing about Libya. Apparently USA can do whatever they want, whenever they want. But whatever, again, read on what's going on. I thought jews in America had quite a lot of power and usually scream about this kind of thing? Is the Russia-phobia so big it's more "important"?

    The party Svoboda in Ukraine, who now gets more and more power, are dangerous. In fact they even salute the history where jews were hunted down and cleaned out, they are proud of it. They want to clean out russians, homosexuals, jews and different-thinking people. They are the ones now writing "here lives a jew" on the walls to some houses. They are also the ones who violently and brutally stopped the Pridefestival 2012, which the whole world condemned, but now suddenly has forgotten. These aren't just extreme right-wingers with nasty opinions, they are the real deal. There are plenty of people in Ukraine who wanted a change, but just like some other "revolutions" in other countries (like Egypt), the normal people get tricked and taken over by extremists (islamists in egypt, nazis in ukraine). My concern doesn't involve just Ukraine, Hungary is moving in the same direction, and a bunch of other countries are not far behind. It's a movement in many countries, but the ones in Ukraine are worst. But hey, let's have some more Russia paranoia, geez...

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    Obama should be the president, I will be a citizen who watches the politicians make fools of themselves on a daily basis, and yes I will keep pointing it out.

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    Obama should be the president, I will be a citizen who watches the politicians make fools of themselves on a daily basis, and yes I will keep pointing it out.

    The world must suck when everything is a campaign sign.

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    Who is saying "I'm a Republican" or "Democrat"?

    You have a group here who is doing nothing but saying "I told you so, Obama is bad"
    You have one guy saying "what would you do?" and another saying who cares about Obama.

    In short you've accused the two people who are talking about the issue, not politics, of being "Democrats" for absolutely no reason.

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    Obama should be the president, I will be a citizen who watches the politicians make fools of themselves on a daily basis, and yes I will keep pointing it out.

    Translated into English: I will complain because I can despite not having the knowledge necessary to make an accurate assessment or give a competent alternative.

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    Translated into English: I will complain because I can despite not having the knowledge necessary to make an accurate assessment or give a competent alternative.

    Do you? Did you ever complain about Bush?

    Bottom line, this guy is exactly who some of us thought he was. An incompetent, unqualified, train wreck. He proves this on a monthly basis.
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    Do you? Did you ever complain about Bush?

    Bottom line, this guy is exactly who some of us thought he was. An incompetent, unqualified, train wreck. He proves this on a monthly basis.

    I wouldn't say he's any less competent than the last guy, or the alternatives.

    Again, people aren't campaign signs.

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    Do you? Did you ever complain about Bush?

    Bottom line, this guy is exactly who some of us thought he was. An incompetent, unqualified, train wreck. He proves this on a monthly basis.

    What does this have to do with Bush? Did I complain about Bush? Yes, when it was warranted, not about EVERY thing he did!

    Bottom line, if you got the chance you would complain about what his morning crap looks like. I would bet that "incompetent, unqualified, train wreck" would make you look silly in any intellectual debate on any subject.

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