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    Someone remind me which party is anti-science again?

    that would be the one in your mind, no party is anti science, just because one likes to relate to religion (which I am against) it does not make them anti science. it is only people who are anti religious who like to label the religious as anti science. but keep watching cnn.

    also, being educated in science does not make you educated in politics, or a certain parties ideas.

    Which party thinks abstinence only education is a good idea when all the stats say otherwise?

    another assumption on your side

    And which party panders to the most religious zealots who shun anything that disagrees with their 2000 year old book of fairy tales?

    what book and what fairy tales?
    I did not think Dawkins work was that old!!

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    I was honestly looking for a link. I thought maybe you had some numbers from somewhere. I'm not sure what you mean by "a good bit", but I'd bet that the vast majority of voters have jobs... even voters voting democratic. It would be interesting to see exact numbers of unemployed Dem voters vs unemployed Rep voters.

    I'm not blind at all to the fact that politicians or groups working with politicians try stuff like this to get extra votes. I agree with you that it's shady and not an ideal way to increase votes. Votes shouldn't be for sale. It just sucks that they are whether it's for a slice of pizza or favors in legislation because of a million dollar lobbyist contribution.

    If I had someone approach me with a decent bribe to vote for them I'd take them up on the offer and vote for their opponent.



    I take it your joking???

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    I guess that says it all. No need to explore other ideas when what you're doing is going so well.

    Basically but why explore it when so called utopia Canada doesn't have it?
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    Basically but why explore it when so called utopia Canada doesn't have it?

    Another so-called Utopia, Australia, does have it.

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    Is anyone really surprised that once again it is conservative/GOP supporters who do NOT want more people to vote?

    Where did you get that? I mean, other than making it up in your mind...where did you get that?

    Oh and I like how Shrew was talking about uneducated voters and whatnot....

    Someone remind me which party is anti-science again?

    Not anti-science, just anti buying into your theory because you think your theory is the right theory.

    Which party thinks abstinence only education is a good idea when all the stats say otherwise?

    Good question. I am unaware of any party that has a policy of supporting abstinence over protection. Please show me evidence that this is the party policy for any party.

    And which party panders to the most religious zealots who shun anything that disagrees with their 2000 year old book of fairy tales?

    That would be the Democratic party and their chosen religion of perfection, Islam.

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    I take it your joking???

    No, not really joking. Although I highly doubt it would happen. Here's why I say this. Say someone approached me and said they would give me an iPad if I voted for so and so. Let's also assume that I could confirm that this person was working for the candidate. For one, I wouldn't really want a guy in office that was using this practice of directly bribing individual voters. Two, I'd get an iPad.

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    No, not really joking. Although I highly doubt it would happen. Here's why I say this. Say someone approached me and said they would give me an iPad if I voted for so and so. Let's also assume that I could confirm that this person was working for the candidate. For one, I wouldn't really want a guy in office that was using this practice of directly bribing individual voters. Two, I'd get an iPad.

    And three, assuming you are a good citizen you would report him/her and end any chance they had of being elected.

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    Well that answers many questions. SO any arguement and stance you have spoke about on these threads I can sway your stance with money and an I Pad. So basically your like the typical politicians you have the nerve to complain about. That is ironic but not surprising. But I give you credit for one thing at least you have the stones to admit you would do this and not hide behind the internet like most of these jokers.
    No, not really joking. Although I highly doubt it would happen. Here's why I say this. Say someone approached me and said they would give me an iPad if I voted for so and so. Let's also assume that I could confirm that this person was working for the candidate. For one, I wouldn't really want a guy in office that was using this practice of directly bribing individual voters. Two, I'd get an iPad.


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    Well that answers many questions. SO any arguement and stance you have spoke about on these threads I can sway your stance with money and an I Pad. So basically your like the typical politicians you have the nerve to complain about. That is ironic but not surprising. But I give you credit for one thing at least you have the stones to admit you would do this and not hide behind the internet like most of these jokers.

    Obviously you misread my post. If you read what I wrote I was not swayed to vote for the guy, unless I mistyped. I did not vote for the briber in my scenario. I'd also bet money that this will never happen to me ever. It's not a typical practice from what I have experienced. In all honesty if someone approached me about voting a certain way for an iPad I'd think someone was up or that it was some sort of set up. In my scenario I didn't really factor that into the question. It was a hypothetical taking scams, setups, or the like completely out of the equation. If a candidate approached me with an ipad offer I wouldn't vote for him either way even if I was set on voting for him before. That would be the only instance of my vote being swayed by a bribe/bribe offer.

    I guess my point was that it just shows how flawed such a practice is. It would more than likely hurt the candidate then anything even outside of any legal repercussions or his political career. Plus, he'd have no way of knowing how the people he's bribed voted anyways.

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    I am not sure what I misread your response is in bold

    was honestly looking for a link. I thought maybe you had some numbers from somewhere. I'm not sure what you mean by "a good bit", but I'd bet that the vast majority of voters have jobs... even voters voting democratic. It would be interesting to see exact numbers of unemployed Dem voters vs unemployed Rep voters.

    I'm not blind at all to the fact that politicians or groups working with politicians try stuff like this to get extra votes. I agree with you that it's shady and not an ideal way to increase votes. Votes shouldn't be for sale. It just sucks that they are whether it's for a slice of pizza or favors in legislation because of a million dollar lobbyist contribution.

    If I had someone approach me with a decent bribe to vote for them I'd take them up on the offer and vote for their opponent.


    Maybe a misunderstanding but not misread
    Obviously you misread my post. If you read what I wrote I was not swayed to vote for the guy, unless I mistyped. I did not vote for the briber in my scenario. I'd also bet money that this will never happen to me ever. It's not a typical practice from what I have experienced. In all honesty if someone approached me about voting a certain way for an iPad I'd think someone was up or that it was some sort of set up. In my scenario I didn't really factor that into the question. It was a hypothetical taking scams, setups, or the like completely out of the equation. If a candidate approached me with an ipad offer I wouldn't vote for him either way even if I was set on voting for him before. That would be the only instance of my vote being swayed by a bribe/bribe offer.

    I guess my point was that it just shows how flawed such a practice is. It would more than likely hurt the candidate then anything even outside of any legal repercussions or his political career. Plus, he'd have no way of knowing how the people he's bribed voted anyways.


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