The Official JAMEIS WINSTON Thread

[22emmittzone]

Wasn't able to figure out the unsubscription thing until now. Had to search it on the site, but we are good to go now. My point was to show you that your chart, while factual was biased and not a fair comparison. Other people agree, but for some reason you believe I am stating you are saying false things when I am not. You obviously take offense because you have to resort to belittling and name calling. Not a debate when you call people idiots, stupid, silly, etc..... And since it isn't a debate for me any longer, when you do that, you just make yourself look silly. Stick to unbiased facts and leave the insulting out of it. Another tip: Try and take feedback constructively rather than take offense. I'm not the only one that had a problem with your chart. I'm not the only one because it is a biased chart and others have commented on it. But, post biased, or non-factual stats, or whatever else you want to make Winston look like the best QB the NFL has ever seen. Signing out of this thread and the other ones you are involved in. Later!

[Jameis1of1]

Yep. Everybody, the all knowing one has spoken. Nothing he says is not factual and is completely unbiased. He is never wrong and we shall forever worship your factual statistical greatness.

You yourself admitted that my stats are 100% accurate … give it a rest. You're just making yourself look silly, especially after you said you were unsubscribing from the thread a while back …

Let us come back to this thread when Winston actually does something meaningful that you have predicted (i.e. win a Super Bowl, perhaps an MVP, or reaches the HOF). I'll be waiting for your, "I told you so." Later

I wonder who this "everybody" and "us" is that you speak of, as I have not received a single message out of the many hundreds of messages on Twitter, that agrees with anything you've stated … and regardless, there's no strength in numbers, there's only strength in truth, logic, etc … ALSO … there you go again MAKING THINGS UP and then refuting those MADE UP statements … go back through this thread and you will see that I NEVER predicted Jameis would win a Super Bowl, in fact I specifically said it is absurd to predict any young QB will ever win a Super Bowl when all-time great HOF'ers like Tarkenton, Fouts, Marino, Kelly and Moon played a combined 80+ YEARS of NFL football and never won a single ring between them … I also NEVER predicted Jameis would win an MVP … Drew Brees has never even won an MVP and yet will be a 1st ballot HOF'er, so predicting MVP trophies for young QBs is another exercise in futility … I trust, promote and expound on FACTUAL statistics … mere opinions mean nothing to me.

Wasn't able to figure out the unsubscription thing until now. Had to search it on the site, but we are good to go now.

Hahahahaha, sure … you know what works just as well as unsubscribing? Simply not clicking on my thread, reading my comments and then taking the time to reply to me … that works just as well as unsubscribing ... but you just couldn't pull yourself away … I get it … I provide interesting reading material … and honestly I thank you for all your posts, even the ones that were strange, as they have helped this thread become as wildly popular as it has, and kept people coming back to read my replies and see how I would respond to such bizarre posts … good job!

My point was to show you that your chart, while factual was biased and not a fair comparison.

And you were wrong. Factual stats can not be biased as they are facts. Made up stats, faked stats, etc., can certainly be biased, but FACTS can never be biased and every stat I post is an irrefutable fact whether you like it or not.

Other people agree,

I doubt that is true, and even if it is, there are tons of people who believe all sorts of insanity these days … there's no strength in numbers, there's strength in logic and statistical facts … I don't respect "group think" and despise the modern quest to place faith in what a collective group believes, rather than in what hard data proves …

but for some reason you believe I am stating you are saying false things when I am not.

You pretend I made statements I never made and then refute those made up statements … you do it all the time and you just did it again in this very post when you claimed that I predicted Jameis would win a Super Bowl and an MVP trophy, two things I NEVER predicted … anyone that reads this thread can easily see you don't debate honestly and one of your favorite things to do is to pretend I said things I never said and then refute those made up statements … it's all very silly and I don't respect that sort of nonsense at all.

You obviously take offense because you have to resort to belittling and name calling.

I stand by every word I have typed in this thread. The things I have accused you of doing, you did in fact do … you deserved to be exposed and I did just that … deal with it, don't try to pretend you were persecuted when in fact I simply called you out for dishonest debating, lying about statements you pretended I made, refuted those made up statements, etc … I have never once cursed at you or even said anything untruthful about your behaviour, I simply called you on your nonsense … put your big boy pants on and understand that if you're going to debate dishonestly you're also going to get called out for doing such.

Not a debate when you call people idiots, stupid, silly, etc.....

I NEVER called you an idiot or stupid … however many of your statements were not just "silly" but downright dishonest and therefore unethical, so if you really are going to whine and cry foul because I called you "silly", all I can say is "wow" … you must have a massive persecution complex or something as I have NEVER had anyone play the persecuted puppy just because I said they were being "silly" … I mean, seriously … "silly" is a bad word now and beyond the pale? You can flat out lie about me, say I said all sorts of things I never said, pretend to refute me when you're really just refuting your own made up statements, etc., but if I call you "silly", that's just taking things too far? HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA … you crack me up.

And since it isn't a debate for me any longer, when you do that, you just make yourself look silly.

Oh no, you just used the abhorrent word "silly"? I don't know if my virgin ears can take such abuse! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

Stick to unbiased facts and leave the insulting out of it.

Again, I stand by every word I have typed in this thread. Many of your statements and the way that you consistently lie about my previous statements in order to then refute statements that were never made, is far worse than just "silly" … me calling you "silly" was me being nice … it's far worse than just "silly" to lie about others and make up statements to refute that were never even made in the first place … it's unethical, dishonest and downright absurd.

Another tip: Try and take feedback constructively rather than take offense.

I do all the time … go read through my comments on this site and on Twitter and you'll see me thanking multiple posters for posting relevant stats and the like … but you lying about statements you pretend I made is not constructive, it's "silly", unethical, dishonest and absurd.

I'm not the only one that had a problem with your chart.

Anyone who doesn't like Jameis may not like the chart but you are the ONLY ONE who admitted the chart was 100% accurate while still railing against it and lying about what I said the chart meant, in order to try and prove me wrong, when you already admitted I was right … that was very "silly" of you ...

I'm not the only one because it is a biased chart and others have commented on it.

Factual stats cannot be biased, period. My chart is not biased in any way, shape or form … you simply don't like it … that is your issue not mine. Your statements are as "silly" as if I saw a chart that showed Emmitt Smith is #1 all-time in rushing and then I started whining that it was a biased chart because it's saying that Emmitt is the best RB ever (something such a chart would not say, just as my chart does not say Jameis is a "better QB" than the other QBs named on it), and that it doesn't also show the yards per carry stats of all the other top runners, or the O-Line rankings of all the other runner's O-lineman, etc … SILLY!

But, post biased, or non-factual stats, or whatever else you want to make Winston look like the best QB the NFL has ever seen.

YOU yourself have already admitted in this thread, multiple times, that my stats and charts are 100% accurate, therefore they cannot be "non-factual stats" you silly, silly man. You're statements and logic are just all over the place … it cracks me up.

Signing out of this thread and the other ones you are involved in. Later!

You said that before … by all means, please actually be a man of your word this time ... as while I always reply to every post and don't mind trolls, haters and the like … at times it feels like I'm merely casting pearls …

In fact, this time, I actually challenge you to be a man of your word and stop replying … a while back you got triggered and said I always had to have the last word … and I just left your post alone and didn't reply in order to give you the last word even though this is my thread and I have every right to reply whenever I want … then later you said you were done with the thread but came right back, then said you were unsubscribing and finished, but came right back … my guess is you (a) love my replies and can't bring yourself not to read them, (b) really do have an urge to always have the last word, and (c) know that my replies expose you and you wrongly think that you can reply to them and make me look bad and defend yourself, not realizing that every time you reply, you just expose yourself further as you continue to make up statements I never said in order to refute those made up statements and I then call you on it again and the cycle just keeps repeating … so, this time … how about you keep your word, don't reply, don't read my comments and just "go in peace" ...

[#1duckscollector]

Stats???

how many playoffs wins for Jameis? 0...

how about how many prime time victories this year? 0..

how many times Jameis beat Tom Brady? Not sure probably also zero.

the bottom line is...when you play every single game from behind and you abandon the run game as expected of course you’re padding stats...still suck and lose anyways, so throw all you want. You won’t be in the playoffs anyways

[Jameis1of1]

Stats???

how many playoffs wins for Jameis? 0...

how about how many prime time victories this year? 0..

how many times Jameis beat Tom Brady? Not sure probably also zero.

the bottom line is...when you play every single game from behind and you abandon the run game as expected of course you’re padding stats...still suck and lose anyways, so throw all you want. You won’t be in the playoffs anyways

You're always good for a laugh ...

[Devlin]

Sounds like fitzy again. Will TB pick up Winstons option?

[jplcom]

Sounds like fitzy again. Will TB pick up Winstons option?

I want Tampa Bay to trade Winston for Carr straight up, then see both teams in the Super Bowl in 2022 for a rematch of Super Bowl 37.

[Devlin]

Hey......., you never know.

[Jameis1of1]

Sounds like fitzy again. Will TB pick up Winstons option?

Tampa already picked it up … but … something Fishy is going on … one team insider speculated the Glazers are done with the current coaching staff and don't want Jameis to play under them and risk injury … I have no clue what's going on but it's at least an "interesting development" so we'll see what happens …

I want Tampa Bay to trade Winston for Carr straight up, then see both teams in the Super Bowl in 2022 for a rematch of Super Bowl 37.

That would be interesting … especially as Gruden has raved about Jameis for years and Jameis desires "hard coaching" … but … if I had to bet $, I'd say both Carr and Jameis are starting game 1 for their current teams next year … but … if one of them will be on a new team that it will be Carr, simply because the Raiders look like they'll cruise to the #1 overall pick and get to draft whatever QB Gruden falls in love with ...

[Devlin]

couple of stories on espn.com state that he has a fifth yr, $20.9 option. One story speculates they will extend, the other, they will not.

either way he'l be playing somewhere.

[Rabs]

I read that if he is injured this year he gets paid the option no matter what.