Completely Frustrated

[Midnightrider06]

Why is it that so many traders do not understand the importence of both insured and delivery confirmation receipt ?

Getting your package insured does not insure delivery folks . It simply insures the replacement of the items at insured value if they are lost, stolen or delivered .

Delivery confirmation confirms the initial mailing of item and it's delivery plus if lost can be found alot quicker then without.

Nobody including postal workers are going to take an insured package with delivery confirmation . So when I pay for insured with delivery confirmation that is what is expected . Had people done so I wouldn't be wondering if I was scammed .

For those people who only insure and not confirm as well , your just asking for troubles at some point in your trading .

What bothers me the most is for .75 it would have cost for this service I would have been guaranteed my delivery cause lets face it . Stuff does not get lost as much as some people would like you to think .

Be responsible in your trading . If you can't ... then don't trade and don't waste my time and money .

Very Very Frustrated .

[Bondsaway]

Well I need to correct a few things from your statements.

First if you insure and DC and the package is delivered to the wrong place. You are out your insurance. Because the P.O. will say see they delivered it. As far as DC goes well they can throw the bubblers in the river and say it was delivered it means nothing.
What if they are delivering to apt complex where the boxes are side by side and yours goes in the wrong one? It will be put down as delivered but the person never got it.

You want to insure delivery? Send it so it has to be signed for. Then it can only be given to someone there!!! Carriers aren't going to say they put your stuff in another box! They like their jobs and paychecks too much for that. YES plenty of things get lost...but in most cases someone is usally lying about send dates or something of that nature.

[Midnightrider06]

I have never seen a package lost that was insured and dc'd . Never had that experience , but I've experienced a few non delivery of insured or supposed insured packages .

I'm a firm user of both and expect the same especially when agreed upon . I just fail to see why so many will skimp on these services that are offered to protect us when goods,money and ones good standing as a trader are involved .

To each there own I guess .

I just know my word is my word and I do as I say and say as I do .

I love to trade and situations like this just really ruin it and make it not fun .

[Bondsaway]

Well I can't argue with the fact that I have never seen anyone lose a dc insured package. But think about this carefully. Why do we need to send that way in the 1st place? hmm...... BECAUSE POSTAL WORKERS LOST CRAP, thats why. I mean really who wants to pay more to ship the same package? Isn't reg mail suppose to get to where its going? Then the rate increases and now the new shipping of bubblers rule has the post office even more screwed up then before.

I personally do not insure or DC unless its with a newbie or the bv is over $50. but thats my personal opinion.

[nadeau01_johnson48]

DC is pointless IMO also. I've had packages with D/C on them that still get lost. It's a waste of extra money, because the USPS is going to lose stuff REGARDLESS of how it's sent. Thats just how the USPS rolls. They suck, but there's not much anyone can do about it.

[BCUS28]

I always use DC, but have never sent anything insured thus far in my online trading/buying career.

I disagree that either one of these or both are useless. These are scammers enemies, and in general are very good deterrents. For me it's peace of mind, even if the USPS loses packages, which I never had happen to me, sending or receiving.

Only once was a package intended for me was delivered a few houses down from where I live.

[mintman2]

When trading I have never used dc or insurance and have never had a problem. I have had several packages not show up but when I showed the scan of the postal receipt that was good enough. If someone's word AND (more importantly) a receipt from the po isn't good enough you probably shouldn't be trading with someone in the first place.

The ONLY reason I use dc is when I ship ebay sales that were paip for by paypal. It doesn't mean diddly though. A couple weeks before christmas I didn't receive a package that had dc but since it was scanned at my po it showed as delivered, SOL for me. I also had a dc package in my po box that was addressed to someone else. DC don't mean squat. And, if the same package had been insured also, that wouldn't matter either as the po would say "Sorry, dc shows it was delivered."

[OnePimpTiger]

I rarely use either service, unless I just don't feel 100% at ease with the transaction. If there was anything that didn't feel just right in setting up the transaction, then I will use one or both just to be safe.

But you ask why not use them? It's only $.75? True, but if you multiply that out, that's a lot of money. I have over 120 transactions here and 241 sales on eBay...I probably used DC and/or insurance on 20 of those. So 341 X $.75 = over $255 I've saved by not using either...and I've only had one person say they didn't receive, but when I showed the postage receipt with their zip on it, amazingly it arrived the next day.

In most cases, both options are useless and a waste of money...the USPS already gets too much of my money w/their crazy shipping charges.

Plus, why use DC if you can Insure. DC just shows it was delivered, but does nothing as far as compensation. If it shows delivered, but nobody has it, you're SOL. W/insurance, who cares if it shows delivered or not, you still get compensation if nobody ends up with it.

By the way, I can send cards an hour away for $1.30 or to Canada for $1.00...how does that make any sense at all?

[molly1984]

Then the rate increases and now the new shipping of bubblers rule has the post office even more screwed up then before.

what rule are you talking about, out of curiosity? just want to be in the know.

[mintman2]

what rule are you talking about, out of curiosity? just want to be in the know.

Bubble mailers used to be considered "non-machinable" and to mail them only cost something like 14 cents more than normal letter rate. When the po did their last rate overhaul bubble mailers got reclassified as a "package". I believe the determining factor is 1/4 inch or greater thickness makes it a "package". It's a HUGE difference. Using the new rates here's what the reclassification did for a 2 ounce mailing.........

letter = 58¢

letter - envelope containing a riid object (formerly non-machinable) (formerly included bubbles) = 75¢

package - (now includes bubble mailers) = $1.30

The long and short of it is the new rules almost doubled the cost of mailing cards in bubble mailers.


There's still much confusion over the new rules and if you affix your own postage on a bubble mailer at the rigid object rate, it will still most likely be delivered but they're cracking down on that and more and more packages are getting returned to sender.