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03-19-2008, 02:39 PM #21
Put Carson on that team, no better. Carson has better WR's, period. If Palmer can't win with CJ, TJ and Chris Henry then he for dang sure isn't going to win with Ward, Santonio and Ced Wilson.
I didn't just mention size. I said he is undersized AND he can't play zone. Who cares if he is better at returning kicks if you are ranking him as a CB?
I am not saying Hall isn't good, but better than Champ? No way. Better than Asante? Maybe.
If you are rating DE's based on what they did 3 or 4 years ago then you need to point that out. I thought you were talking about now. Also, if you are rating Jason Taylor as a LB you need to mention that as well.
First 4 seasons of their career:
Jared Allen 199 tackles, 43 sacks and 14 forced fumbles
Jason Taylor 125 tackles, 31 sacks and 7 forced fumbles.
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03-19-2008, 03:00 PM #22
duane, ur crazy man...carson isnt losing because of his wr's...hes losing because he has no line or defense...
if he was on Pittsburgh they would be up there with New England and Indianapolis....
Thats pretty interesting Jason Taylor Jared Allen stats...didnt know Allen was that sick...good info...
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03-19-2008, 03:01 PM #23
Ben cant win you games, he can just not lose them for you...Carson can win for u....
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03-19-2008, 03:31 PM #24
so if Carson was the 2nd most sacked QB in the league he would be a better QB?..i'm confused
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03-19-2008, 04:45 PM #25
The only quarterbacks in the NFL that I can put ahead of Big Ben right now is Peyton & Brady....especially since Favre is retired now
Carson Palmer wishes he was still Polamalu's teammate!
Oh, and Big Ben might not have had a great statistical Super Bowl, but he's got the ring! Besides, he did all his work in the 3 playoff games that year. He was on fire....ask any Denver Broncos fan if Big Ben is any good
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03-19-2008, 04:51 PM #26
BigBen was sacked 47 times, 2nd most in the NFL in 2007, and he doesn't have guys like CJ and TJ to throw to, yet he still managed to throw more TD's and less INT's than Palmer.
Explain to me how Carson Palmer would be better off with lesser WR's and less O-line protection.....
Maybe you weren't watching so I will fill you in.
Week 1 vs Browns - 146 yds, 4 TD, 0 INT
Week 9 vs Baltimore - 209 yds, 5 TD, 0 INT
Week 16 vs St. Louis - 261 yds, 3 TD, 0 INT
I have a feeling the Steelers won because of BigBen......
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03-19-2008, 05:06 PM #27
Ill think both palmer and "big"ben are way overrated...JMO
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03-19-2008, 05:44 PM #28
or ask any denver bronco fan if jake plummer sucked a dick that game...which he did, which is why pittsburgh had the ball the whole game. denver woulda won the superbowl that year...
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03-19-2008, 06:25 PM #29
I am not gonna argue that Plummer is or was great, but he threw for 223 yds, 1 TD & 2 INt's and completed 60% of his passes that game. Not exactly the worst performance of his career.
And even if he did suck, it doesn't change the fact that BigBen had a great game (275 yds, 2 TD, 0 INT, 72% completion, 124.9 QB rating, 1 TD rushing).
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03-19-2008, 07:00 PM #30
Ever consider that maybe Ben didn't throw many interceptions cause he is getting sacked every other play? I might sound a little biased here being a Browns fan, but I don't think Ben is as amazing as some say he is. He is no doubt good, but to say he is a top 10 QB is sorta pushing it I think.
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Originally Posted by channingcrowder22 
