Urine Test -- This guy has a point!

[RedGoneWILD]

I want numbers saying that the percentage is higher with the working force then those on welfare which you implied.

then...go...find...them!

you've added absolutely nothing of value to this conversation...

you don't even think human beings have a right to eat...lol

[jaybird_1981]

then...go...find...them!

you've added absolutely nothing of value to this conversation...

you don't even think human beings have a right to eat...lol

I don't have to find them you brought up the point. The welfare system is one of the most abused social programs in America and if you don't believe that you are either very young or very naive.

[RedGoneWILD]

I don't have to find them you brought up the point. The welfare system is one of the most abused social programs in America and if you don't believe that you are either very young or very naive.

...so does anybody else want to call me very young or naive? anybody else think i live in a fantasy world?

seriously jayturd, if you dont have anything productive to say, then find another thread...i'd like to know what throne you sit on that makes you right and everybody else naive

[Rockman]

...so does anybody else want to call me very young or naive? anybody else think i live in a fantasy world?

seriously jayburd, if you dont have anything productive to say, then find another thread...i'd like to know what throne you sit on that makes you right and everybody else naive

I don't think you live in a fantasy world. I just think you are always high, but that's ok ;)

Its a bit old but I did find this.

Drs. Grant and Dawson found the 1992 prevalence of alcohol abuse and/or dependence among welfare recipients (which ranged from 4.3 to 8.2 percent across the five welfare programs) and drug abuse and/or dependence (which ranged from 1.3 to 3.6 across the programs) comparable to general population rates for alcohol abuse and/or dependence (7.4 percent) and other drug abuse and/or dependence (1.5 percent). Similarly, the proportion of welfare recipients who are heavy drinkers (6.4 to 13.8 percent across programs) was comparable to 14.5 percent in the general population, and the proportion of welfare recipients who use other drugs (3.8 to 9.8 across programs) was comparable to 5.0 in the general population. The welfare rates also were similar to non-welfare rates of alcohol abuse and/or dependence (7.5 percent), drug abuse and/or dependence (1.5 percent), heavy drinking (14.8 percent), and any drug use (5.1 percent).

[RedGoneWILD]

Its a bit old but I did find this.

Drs. Grant and Dawson found the 1992 prevalence of alcohol abuse and/or dependence among welfare recipients (which ranged from 4.3 to 8.2 percent across the five welfare programs) and drug abuse and/or dependence (which ranged from 1.3 to 3.6 across the programs) comparable to general population rates for alcohol abuse and/or dependence (7.4 percent) and other drug abuse and/or dependence (1.5 percent). Similarly, the proportion of welfare recipients who are heavy drinkers (6.4 to 13.8 percent across programs) was comparable to 14.5 percent in the general population, and the proportion of welfare recipients who use other drugs (3.8 to 9.8 across programs) was comparable to 5.0 in the general population. The welfare rates also were similar to non-welfare rates of alcohol abuse and/or dependence (7.5 percent), drug abuse and/or dependence (1.5 percent), heavy drinking (14.8 percent), and any drug use (5.1 percent).

very good information rockman

[jaybird_1981]

...so does anybody else want to call me very young or naive? anybody else think i live in a fantasy world?

seriously jayturd, if you dont have anything productive to say, then find another thread...i'd like to know what throne you sit on that makes you right and everybody else naive

You are the one resorting to childish name calling proving my point.

[RedGoneWILD]

You are the one resorting to childish name calling proving my point.

you have posted absolutely nothing in this thread other than "people don't have the right to eat" and that i'm "very young or very naive" because I don't think exactly like you...that's it...what else have you added to the conversation?

rockman just gave you your stats... no comment on that?

[jaybird_1981]

you have posted absolutely nothing in this thread other than "people don't have the right to eat" and that i'm "very young or very naive" because I don't think exactly like you...that's it...what else have you added to the conversation?

rockman just gave you your stats... no comment on that?

Of course I saw those but why should I do the google work for you. And I don't think you are young and naive because you don't share my ideology, I think this because you show the same amount of world knowledge as a child.

And why do you keep bringing up the right to eat thing? The constitution is pretty clear in the rights you are granted and I don't see anywhere where it says it will feed all it's citizens.

[RedGoneWILD]

Of course I saw those but why should I do the google work for you. And I don't think you are young and naive because you don't share my ideology, I think this because you show the same amount of world knowledge as a child.

And why do you keep bringing up the right to eat thing? The constitution is pretty clear in the rights you are granted and I don't see anywhere where it says it will feed all it's citizens.

it is hilarious that i have the world knowledge of a child, because i don't find welfare totally repulsive.... or is it because i said that drug tests will not end the problems of drug use or welfare?

and jayturd saw those numbers but didnt want to do the google work for me ...which i guess is why you said "percentage wise no way" earlier

[tutall]

i agree jaybird.... the constitution is very clear on governments responsibilities and a lot of the things they have decided to take on are definently not in there. But what do those old guys know about running a country