Urine Test -- This guy has a point!

[jaybird_1981]

it is hilarious that i have the world knowledge of a child, because i don't find welfare totally repulsive.... or is it because i said that drug tests will not end the problems of drug use or welfare?

and jayturd saw those numbers but didnt want to do the google work for me ...which i guess is why you said "percentage wise no way" earlier

I never said drug testing would end welfare. Welfare will end when people stop feeling that they are owed something. The sense of entitlement that is prevalent in this country is seriously out of control.

What drug testing would do though is eliminate some of dead weight from the system that feel the need to spend their food money on drugs.

[jaybird_1981]

i agree jaybird.... the constitution is very clear on governments responsibilities and a lot of the things they have decided to take on are definently not in there. But what do those old guys know about running a country

I totally agree the less government involvement in your day to day life is always better. I look at the government as more of a protector then a provider. I expect it to protect my rights but not to provide everything for me.

[RedGoneWILD]

you stated that i have the world knowledge of a child...ha...what led you to say that? just admit that it's because you disagree with me...i've already stated previously that i think the system should be revamped and that people who abuse the system or commit fraud should be removed or prosecuted

but once again you have stated a theory...

What drug testing would do though is eliminate some of dead weight from the system that feel the need to spend their food money on drugs.

...with absolutely nothing to back it up. i have already stated the reasons why i dont believe a drug test would improve the system or even "remove the dead weight"....what reasons lead you to believe the opposite?

you're just saying the same thing the email in post #1 said, without any theories on how it would save us money or why drug testing would work...i feel like we're just going in circles

[jaybird_1981]

you stated that i have the world knowledge of a child...ha...what led you to say that? just admit that it's because you disagree with me...i've already stated previously that i think the system should be revamped and that people who abuse the system or commit fraud should be removed or prosecuted

but once again you have stated a theory...



...with absolutely nothing to back it up. i have already stated the reasons why i dont believe a drug test would improve the system or even "remove the dead weight"....what reasons lead you to believe the opposite?

you're just saying the same thing the email in post #1 said, without any theories on how it would save us money or why drug testing would work...i feel like we're just going in circles

Really you don't understand how not giving money to those who test positive for drugs would save money?

It is pretty simple if you test positive for drugs you should no longer receive benefits, pretty simple huh?

I will try to help you out in your argument though (since it is very hard to understand your point). I think you are saying the cost of the drug testing would outweigh the savings from removing the offenders from the program, which I disagree with.

[RedGoneWILD]

Really you don't understand how not giving money to those who test positive for drugs would save money?

It is pretty simple if you test positive for drugs you should no longer receive benefits, pretty simple huh?

I will try to help you out in your argument though (since it is very hard to understand your point). I think you are saying the cost of the drug testing would outweigh the savings from removing the offenders from the program, which I disagree with.

oh my god...you're simple

nevermind

[jaybird_1981]

oh my god...you're simple

nevermind

I really do not understand your stance on this. Please enlighten me?

[BuckeyeJosh]

just tossing this out there
Just passing this on because i liked it
This was written by a construction worker in Fort McMurray

Read on . . .
I work, they pay me.I pay my taxes, and the government distributes my taxes as it sees fit. In order to earn that pay check, I work on a rig site for a Fort McMurray construction project. At any time, I am required to pass
a random urine test,with which I have no problem.

HOWEVER, what I do have a problem with is the distribution of my taxes to people who don't have to pass a urine test. Shouldn't one have to pass a urine test to get a welfare check because I have to pass one to earn it for them?
Understand - I have no problem with helping people get back on their feet. I do on the other hand, have a problem with helping someone sit on their butt, drink beer and smoke dope. Could you imagine how much money
this country would save if people had to pass a urine test to get a public assistance check?

If you agree, please pass this along, or simply delete if you don't.

Why not? I think this is a hell of a idea. If the people getting this assistance have nothing to hide why should it matter?

[OnePimpTiger]

This is getting a little out of hand...we've discussed the issue and now resorted to insulting each other. Thread closed.