sv vs bv?

[beex215]

here is small chat log. i just want to here what you have to say about it. his name is not there. i wanted antawn jamison auto and a derek fisher auto. he wanted video games



(5:09:28 AM): on those games u have..what are you priceing them from..Ebay?
beex215 (5:09:47 AM): average ebay
(5:10:01 AM): and same with cards?
beex215 (5:10:07 AM): yup
beex215 (5:10:11 AM): sounds fare
beex215 (5:10:12 AM): fair
(5:10:31 AM): ok..thanks for the time then...i have stuff thats in your wants but i wont let em go are sv
beex215 (5:10:42 AM): ok than
(5:10:42 AM): at*
beex215 (5:10:51 AM): whats wrong with sv?
(5:11:09 AM): sv is just a market for whats hot at the time
beex215 (5:11:21 AM): my games are old
beex215 (5:11:36 AM): they pretty much stay the same for along time'
beex215 (5:11:43 AM): but no problem
(5:12:29 AM): if i go through your bucket and list the carter autos u have in your pc..i bet most sell for under $15 but book alot more than that...would u trade em for less than $15 knowing the probably book at $80 and up and dont sell good only cuz they arent in the playoffs
(5:13:03 AM): i didnt think so
beex215 (5:13:07 AM): wait
beex215 (5:13:15 AM): i actually bought them for 15-25
beex215 (5:13:30 AM): thats the sv so its right
(5:13:34 AM): but i bet i can ind most under $15
(5:13:40 AM): find*
beex215 (5:13:51 AM): some times and luck
(5:14:51 AM): i got a tmac auto jersey..books at $100..do u acutal think ide trde it for $15 just cuz he has been hurt...what happens when he come back and plays well...his cards will be in demand right and will start to sell for more right
(5:15:22 AM): i cant stand when people try and use ebay and a market for a guide..all it is...is whats hot at that ponit in time
beex215 (5:15:24 AM): who says you would trade it for 15
beex215 (5:15:27 AM): i dont know
(5:15:42 AM): i wouldnt
(5:15:47 AM): ide want $100 in trade
beex215 (5:15:53 AM): i only use sv as a guide i didnt want you to get mad
(5:16:17 AM): naw bro...it gets frustrating cuz people try and scam people
(5:16:30 AM): there are 4 members here on scf
(5:16:34 AM): whom have nice collections
(5:16:37 AM): but
beex215 (5:16:38 AM): well im not scamming anyone. i really think sv on both items seems fair
beex215 (5:17:13 AM): i have not so hot games and they are old i want the not so hot players that are not really high valued at all
(5:17:18 AM): when they pmed me about something they wanted to go by sell value..i was like cool...but when they found out mine sold for alot more than theres..they wanted to use bv
(5:17:29 AM): i guess now i know how they got a nice collection
beex215 (5:17:37 AM): ok, thats them
beex215 (5:17:46 AM): not me
(5:17:54 AM): bottom line is this bro
(5:17:57 AM): there your games
(5:18:03 AM): you no how much in trade u asking on them
(5:18:19 AM): i wont trade my stuff at sv though
beex215 (5:18:31 AM): if you go by book
beex215 (5:18:43 AM): what do i go by?
(5:18:53 AM): how much in trade u want for em
beex215 (5:18:55 AM): retail? its better to do sv as its less
(5:18:59 AM): thats what u go by
beex215 (5:19:31 AM): i can just go by what i bought them for
(5:19:49 AM): highly doubt youll get that since you said they are old
(5:19:51 AM): correct
beex215 (5:20:03 AM): thats sv!!!!!!!!!!
beex215 (5:20:05 AM): currnet sv
beex215 (5:20:14 AM): and you dont want to t\do that
beex215 (5:20:17 AM): i said avg sv
(5:20:20 AM): have a nice night

[Ray33]

im trying to follow the chat. what does this mean?

beex215 (5:17:13 AM): i have not so hot games and they are old i want the not so hot players that are not really high valued at all

[JesRey]

that was confusing lol

[bballcardheaven]

Well, SV is the true market. Chances are most of the cards are bought on ebay that are currently in the market. Beckett has no relation so SV, some guys just made it up. I can really make a book that has values of the cards if I wanted to, but I dont. I could make up whack prices and would you believe them? That is bv.

[beex215]

im trying to follow the chat. what does this mean?

beex215 (5:17:13 AM): i have not so hot games and they are old i want the not so hot players that are not really high valued at all

i have not so new released games. not hot. i want antawn and fisher auto. not high valued player guys.

Well, SV is the true market. Chances are most of the cards are bought on ebay that are currently in the market. Beckett has no relation so SV, some guys just made it up. I can really make a book that has values of the cards if I wanted to, but I dont. I could make up whack prices and would you believe them? That is bv.

thats why i wanted to go by sv. he doesnt.

[gladdyontherise]

i understood the whole thing, waste of my time reading it..lol

i'll clue everyone in NIETHER SELL VALUE OR BOOK VALUE IS CORRECT!!!!! Book value is done by people who have no clue what they are doing and sell value isnt accurate because its only what sells on ebay, not craigslist, auction houses, card shops etc...

the CORRECT guide is PERSONAL VALUE! Whatever you feel comfortable trading it for is what the value is, not because people on beckett say so, and besides, ebay doesnt even show the max bid, so SV is incorrect

[tarheelsnipe]

sorry man. a dollar is worth a dollar. this bv / sv stuff is CRAP. if you can only get $5 for a video game, then it's worth $5. Same with cards, comics, toys, a vehicle, a house, etc. Market value is market value. A basic lower level economics course would open a lot of eyes to some of these bv/sv collectors. The magazine company that establishes these bv's also recieves advertising revenue from big time card dealers that help establish the card prices. This is a flagrant conflict of interest. 1 of 2 things happen as a collector at this point. 1) the collector disregards the price guide, or 2) the collector distorts his collection's market value by using the inflated prices. This has been a point of contention with me for years, and I've voiced it since joining this forum.

on a side note, i used to collect video games. There is a price guide available for them, and it's pretty accurate as it follows ebay sales. It mostly targets older systems like NES, Turbografx, Atari, Sega, etc. Its revenue comes from actual magazine subscription prices and donations from members. Their valuation methods are laid out in the front of the magazine.

[beex215]

i understood the whole thing, waste of my time reading it..lol

i'll clue everyone in NIETHER SELL VALUE OR BOOK VALUE IS CORRECT!!!!! Book value is done by people who have no clue what they are doing and sell value isnt accurate because its only what sells on ebay, not craigslist, auction houses, card shops etc...

the CORRECT guide is PERSONAL VALUE! Whatever you feel comfortable trading it for is what the value is, not because people on beckett say so, and besides, ebay doesnt even show the max bid, so SV is incorrect

i do take that into account. i like my 90;s guys and would pay and trade for them alot easier.

sorry man. a dollar is worth a dollar. this bv / sv stuff is CRAP. if you can only get $5 for a video game, then it's worth $5. Same with cards, comics, toys, a vehicle, a house, etc. Market value is market value. A basic lower level economics course would open a lot of eyes to some of these bv/sv collectors. The magazine company that establishes these bv's also recieves advertising revenue from big time card dealers that help establish the card prices. This is a flagrant conflict of interest. 1 of 2 things happen as a collector at this point. 1) the collector disregards the price guide, or 2) the collector distorts his collection's market value by using the inflated prices. This has been a point of contention with me for years, and I've voiced it since joining this forum.

on a side note, i used to collect video games. There is a price guide available for them, and it's pretty accurate as it follows ebay sales. It mostly targets older systems like NES, Turbografx, Atari, Sega, etc.

he gets really defensive and only contradicts himself. thats what i saw.

he brings up his tmac thats worth 100bv. i could have said the same thing he said about buying carter autos. and yet he wants 100 for it. what am i suppose to do with the games. use retail? thats even more than sv on ebay.

[tarheelsnipe]

he brings up his tmac thats worth 100bv. i could have said the same thing he said about buying carter autos. and yet he wants 100 for it. what am i suppose to do with the games. use retail? thats even more than sv on ebay.

Both of you simultaneously list your items on ebay, then trade the proceeds. I know that's ridiculous, but it would be a great story on how to settle the argument.

[beex215]

not bad of an idea.i would do it if i could but he doesnt use sv..