The Official Lebron James Discussion Thread

[underdawg]

That's why MJ is one of the greatest.

MJ finally broke Crazy BAD BOYS(might be one of toughest team ever !).

But how about LBJ? What did he do? When DH12 broke Shotclock?

Are you serious? This doesn't make sense. I don't know how this is suppose to disprove LeBron. So Dwight breaks the shotclock, you want LeBron to go crazy? Okay.... Did MJ ever had an opponent break the shotclock? Heck, LeBron fans can use this against you, saying that MJ never faced an opponent as dominant as Dwight.

and How about MJ ? do you remember this picture ?

LBJ is taller than MJ and Ewing is taller than DH12 but ?

But what? To be the best one in the league, you gotta dunk over people? If that is the case, James White, Gerald Green, and bunch of more people should be legends. Correct? Or how about people that dunked on Yao? (Which is a HUGE list - I'd know, because I'm a witness. Haha.) Should those people be awarded a trophy? Again, what is the point of you posting this? This doesn't really help your case.

Part of funny LBJ fans tells like this "LBJ did everything EXCEPT Championship.(BEEP wrong! If someone is compared with crazy toppest Legned players, Champ is all !) Who can be comparable with LBJ? only Wilt Chamberlain?"

I think I agree with you. (I'm not a LeBron fan. I do acknowledge he is good though. Of course, not as good as MJ.)

Funnily when LBJ lost games, they told like this "Comparison with MJ is unfair because LBJ was H.S. Player and MJ was from UNC blabblab. And it is not unfair LBJ is just growing and MJ made whole career. anyway LBJ is LBJ !!"


Those funny point is part of them have two measures.

When LBJ won the game " WOW that is LBJ!"

Very true. I agree, but have to point something out. Every player have crazy fans like that. Don't make fans hinder your view of a great player in LeBron. Enjoy him! He is great, that it is fun to watch.

When LBJ lost "LBJ's Cavs is one man team ever ! That's the reason why LBJ lost ! And why refree calls like that ? "
- Beep !! not true. Z-Man, Mo-Will etc. are just bench player? Rather I think 1994 Rockets (VS Knicks) was one man team like their measure.
(Of course, Rockets was not oneman team but looks like that because there were only Olajuwon. Others were nice players but not all star level like Otis Thorpe, Kenny Smith, Robert Horry(sophomore), Sam Cassell(rookie), Mario Elie etc.)

Of course, I can't disagree with you. I'm just going to say Olajuwon is an underrated player.

Also, again, all players have crazy fans. ****, even some Wade fans, can't accept that he gets questionable calls. (Wade is one of my favorite players. I like him more than LeBron. Of course, I rather have LeBron on my team though.)

I don't deny LBJ is one of the craziest through entire NBA history.


But I can't accept LBJ is "The Chosen one" yet.


Magic Johnson won Champ and Final MVP in his rookie season
-> Of course, there were Jabbar. But that Jabbar was not the craziest Jabbar(than Bucks era).

Bill Russell won 11 rings and his 6 or 7 season were streight winning champ.

Maybe LeBron isn't a winner? I don't know. I don't really care. But... you are contradicting yourself by using those examples and using MJ examples in the beginning of your post. MJ didn't win a championship of any MVP his rookie season. And MJ didn't win 11 rings.

If I tell like that, part of LBJ fans might say like this.

"BOO! It was just old time. It was EASIER to get champ at that time. Players were really WEAKER than now."
-> BEEP not true.


Russell's opponent was THE CRAZIEST Wilt Chamberlain. Before Stilt, Opponent was Elgin Baylor and Jerry West.
So if someone tells that is funny, it means "Elgin Baylor and Jerry West is just So-So Players !"
(Ah..Of course, there were Bob Cousy and John Havlicek at Celtics though)

And I don't well know about old games. But I don't think it was softer than now. Rather it might be tougher than now.


Magic's opponent was DR. J.
(Off topic, there were Henry Bibby at 76ers - Mike Bibby's father.)


So at least those legend didn't make kidding. Rather it might be really hard. But they accomplished !


But what LBJ did?

Yes he got MVP but anything else?

Swept hardly by Spurs at Final and another swept hardly by DH12's Orlando at ECF(Sorry not Final)?

It's not like LeBron went against trash teams. Eastern conference is pretty weak. (Though some may argue) I admire the Detroit/Cavaliers series. LeBron was simply amazing. Of course, Spurs aren't scrubs either. FAR from scrubs.

Yes MVP is very hard to get. But Look, we tell about LBJ not Z-Man or Gasol.

If Z-Man or Gasol win MVP, it might be definitely very nice thing.
(Of course, less possiblities.)

But LBJ has been compared with the craziest legend like MJ and another MJ.



Michael Jordan's Opponent was Crazy BAD BOYS and LBJ's Opponent was weak (than crazy deffense 80's,90's teams) but LBJ lost.


I'm not a liker or hater of LBJ. But if he doesn't do anything for the next season, he is not "THE Chosen one" any longer.
(Remind Magic Johnson's just rookie's winning champ and final MVP !)

Because there is SHAQ.

Basketball is a team game afterall. It's not like MJ's team were all scrubs. Pippen was probably one of the best "point forwards." Even though I hate his whinnying **** that caused the Rockets years of mediocrity, he wasn't a scrub. (Man.... screw Pippen. He very well be the most hated player by Rockets fans.)

Just my OP(a bit off topic), I don't like someone calls "Chosen One" by himself before doing something.

Who cares? Just a nickname.

[montej1695]

How can ANYONE hate on Lebron???? Are you guys serious??? He IS the best player in the NBA PERIOD... better than Kobe, than Dwight, than my guy CP3, Wade, he smokes them all... hes simply that good... he does everything well and is the most versatile player since Magic.

He wont win 1 NBA championship, he'll win 5 of them, if not more. Hes arguably already in the top 10 of ALL-TIME great NBA players and will probably reign in the top 2 or 3 when its all said and done.

Welcome to the Knicks Lebron, we cant wait to have you in NY.... LOL

[selby56]

I was at this game:


Sheeds face is priceless.

[garnett_21]

Hes arguably already in the top 10 of ALL-TIME great NBA players and will probably reign in the top 2 or 3 when its all said and done.

Just curious here - who, of these players in SLAM's top 10 of all time, would you take out and put Lebron in place of? Jordan, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Oscar, Magic, Kareem, Duncan, Bird, West. I'm not denying he is good - great - but to put him in the top 10 of all time when he's only played 6 years in the NBA and has only won 1 MVP and no titles, frankly is absurd, to me at least. Just my opinion though.

[selby56]

Just curious here - who, of these players in SLAM's top 10 of all time, would you take out and put Lebron in place of? Jordan, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Oscar, Magic, Kareem, Duncan, Bird, West. I'm not denying he is good - great - but to put him in the top 10 of all time when he's only played 6 years in the NBA and has only won 1 MVP and no titles, frankly is absurd, to me at least. Just my opinion though.

He isn't top 10 yet. I have a feeling when his career is through, he will be in the top 10, no questions. But if he were to suffer a career ending injury (if that were to happen, it is all the proof you need that God hates our city) then I couldn't safely say that he is still top 10 best with his short career and lack of awards/rings.

[WilyWestbrook0]

Jordan didn't win a ring until Magic was out of the league...

Actually, Jordan's Bulls beat Magic's Lakers in the 1991 NBA Finals, Jordan's first championship season.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1991_NBA_Finals

[garnett_21]

Actually, Jordan's Bulls beat Magic's Lakers in the 1991 NBA Finals, Jordan's first championship season.

True...I knew that too...I knew Magic retired in 1991, but didn't recall it was after the finals were over.

[montej1695]

Just curious here - who, of these players in SLAM's top 10 of all time, would you take out and put Lebron in place of? Jordan, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, Oscar, Magic, Kareem, Duncan, Bird, West. I'm not denying he is good - great - but to put him in the top 10 of all time when he's only played 6 years in the NBA and has only won 1 MVP and no titles, frankly is absurd, to me at least. Just my opinion though.

ok so hes 10.5...

Obviously when you look at the careers of those players vs. Lebron's there's no comparison...YET... but imo other than Jordan, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, and Kareem
if you gave me a choice of taking a player in their prime I would take Lebron over those other 5.

[garnett_21]

ok so hes 10.5...

Obviously when you look at the careers of those players vs. Lebron's there's no comparison...YET... but imo other than Jordan, Wilt, Russell, Shaq, and Kareem
if you gave me a choice of taking a player in their prime I would take Lebron over those other 5.

Fair enough...that's basically what I was trying to get at though, is that he will probably end up being named in the same sentence as those players, but not yet...6 years is far too soon to name him as an all-time top 10 player, IMO.

[cbrjunkie888]

i'm not bashing or anything, i collect lebrons cards also, but just cos they are good price and hold values....lol..but one thing, when is LEBRON GONNA WIN THE CHAMPIONSHIP? i wanna see all my lebrons go sky rocking and BOOKED more than Jordan's cards!!!!
so Bron Bron, when are u n the Cavs gonna win the Championship??? u have Shaq and Parker this year, for the extra help, even have my cousins , those Rich China man, helping..lol...Can we get a Championship???? 7 years already loh.....how muchie longer lah???.....lol.....so long time no good mah, we waiting for so long liao....lol..