Yet more record low temps

[Yanksfan396]

Remember that just a few centuries ago scientists claimed the world was flat and you could have been killed for arguing otherwise.

Gotta love when the church dictates government.

[Yanksfan396]

Global warming = capriciousness.

[theonedru]

Gotta love when the church dictates government.

I agree and its sad the influence they still have to discriminate against citizens still to this day

[drtom2005]

Just curious on how this Planet got into the shape it is. Was there a race of people on there who destroyed it, or did it just happen.
I think, strike that, I know that the Earth goes through natural cycles hence the Ice Ages and the thaws of the past.
Do I think that mankind is helping to advance it sure, but I also believe that it will happen with or without us.

That is fine. I will not deny that the Earth goes through natural cycles of heating and cooling. I do have a problem with people who deny our impact on the environment. People who ignore scientific data. OPT do not come back with I just admitted it is possible that this could be just part of the Earth's cycle. There are no Siberia traps releasing massive amounts of carbon dioxide. The CO2 is coming from us.

[OnePimpTiger]

OPT when comparing things, what do you do in science? Control as many factors as possible.Earth and Venus early development were very similar based on what we know currently. The fact that you think comparing Mars and Venus is valid about global warming shows one of two things. Either you are ignorant of the topic or you ignore facts to suit your worldview. Which is it? Only people who do not understand science will think your comparsion of Mars and Venus is as valid as Earth and Venus.

"-Is Venus a planet? yes
-Is carbon dioxide a chemical compound? yes
-Is Venus' atomsphere 97% carbon dioxide? roughly, yes
-Does carbon dioxide trap heat? yes
-Is the surface temperature of Venus around 900 degress F? yes
-What do cars and factories admit in mass quantities on this planet? CO2"

You have already conceded to me. The logic conclusion of my series of questions is CO2 warms atmospheres. We are pumping it out. We are warming the atmosphere. Deny this if you want. Others will see the illogic in your argument. Only those who are not open to learning and agree with you will think you have anything valid to say on this topic. If I know more than you on a topic, I will point out your ignorance. When the information does not fit your world view, I will point out your misdirect . Good luck OPT. You some misdirection technique now. I see it coming. Pull out some minority article that does not go with the mountain of evidence we have for global warming. We even have a very similar planet you are ignoring.

Go ahead and use the Mars and Venus comparison again. I loved the blanant ignorance you displayed in this argument. It was quite funny.

Well some people seek the truth and others deny. The truth always comes out if you look for it. I like researching topics. Many on this site do not. I read books and scientific data. If I do not not know something, I admit it unlike most unreasonable people. So your point is invalid.

That is fine. I will not deny that the Earth goes through natural cycles of heating and cooling. I do have a problem with people who deny our impact on the environment. People who ignore scientific data. OPT do not come back with I just admitted it is possible that this could be just part of the Earth's cycle. There are no Siberia traps releasing massive amounts of carbon dioxide. The CO2 is coming from us.

First off, I love how your act all big and bad calling me out while I'm not even online...your so mature.

You are so blinded by your self-proclaimed intelligence it's funny. I'm not arguing for or against "global warming," but you're too dense to see that. I'm just arguing for considering all scientific evidence...which obviously you don't agree with.

You provided 100%, irrefutable proof that "global warming" is man made in six questions...I asked those same questions, not as any comparison of Mars to Earth or as proof that "global warming" doesn't exist, and proved that, as stated, your 100% irrefutable proof was completely refutable.

Let me rephrase it a little more bluntly, I know you need it: As I've said numerous times in this forum, I don't agree or disagree with "global warming," I disagree with spending billions and billions of taxpayer money based on incomplete science and rabid sheep believing anything the media tells them.

You are the open-minded, well-studied Rhodes scholar and I am the one denying science, yet you absolutely refuse to consider any scientific proof that contradicts "global warming," of which there is plenty, while that is exactly what I am asking you to do. I am the one who only searches for facts to uphold my world view, yet I am considering all scientific data on the topic at hand, while you only accept the science that supports your opinion on the matter...your world view. And yet somehow, I'm the hypocrite...

Most people fall into three categories: Those who think they are smart and actually are, those who realize they're not smart, and those who think they are, but are mistaken...

[drtom2005]

First off, I love how your act all big and bad calling me out while I'm not even online...your so mature.

You are so blinded by your self-proclaimed intelligence it's funny. I'm not arguing for or against "global warming," but you're too dense to see that. I'm just arguing for considering all scientific evidence...which obviously you don't agree with.

You provided 100%, irrefutable proof that "global warming" is man made in six questions...I asked those same questions, not as any comparison of Mars to Earth or as proof that "global warming" doesn't exist, and proved that, as stated, your 100% irrefutable proof was completely refutable.

Let me rephrase it a little more bluntly, I know you need it: As I've said numerous times in this forum, I don't agree or disagree with "global warming," I disagree with spending billions and billions of taxpayer money based on incomplete science and rabid sheep believing anything the media tells them.

You are the open-minded, well-studied Rhodes scholar and I am the one denying science, yet you absolutely refuse to consider any scientific proof that contradicts "global warming," of which there is plenty, while that is exactly what I am asking you to do. I am the one who only searches for facts to uphold my world view, yet I am considering all scientific data on the topic at hand, while you only accept the science that supports your opinion on the matter...your world view. And yet somehow, I'm the hypocrite...

Most people fall into three categories: Those who think they are smart and actually are, those who realize they're not smart, and those who think they are, but are mistaken...

Read about the Great Dying and the Siberian traps and tell me I am wrong to be worried. I'll give you links. Take into consideration that we are pumping out more CO2 than during this time. Will you deny this piece of evidence also? Will you deny all of the evidence? As for spending billions of dollars, I guess saving our race is not worth it. When you deny all of the scientific evidence, this is what you imply. It is that simply. You either see the truth or hide your head in the sand. Since you think the evidence is incomplete, I will keep posting different aspects of evidence for awhile to educate others.

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/...identified.ars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian...tinction_event

http://features.csmonitor.com/enviro...ying%E2%80%99/

[OnePimpTiger]

Read about the Great Dying and the Siberian traps and tell me I am wrong to be worried. I'll give you links. Take into consideration that we are pumping out more CO2 than during this time. Will you deny this piece of evidence also? Will you deny all of the evidence? As for spending billions of dollars, I guess saving our race is not worth it. When you deny all of the scientific evidence, this is what you imply. It is that simply. You either see the truth or hide your head in the sand.

http://arstechnica.com/science/news/...identified.ars

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permian...tinction_event

http://features.csmonitor.com/enviro...ying%E2%80%99/

Wow...it's absolutely astounding how you pay no attention whatsoever to anything someone else says...but understandable I guess, you like to hear yourself talk so much, there's no time to listen to others. I would try to explain, but there's no point...I already have repeatedly.

[drtom2005]

Melting glaciers evidence.

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0529235344.htm

http://www.guardian.co.uk/environmen....climatechange

http://www.commondreams.org/headlines02/0925-05.htm

http://www.reuters.com/article/scien...K8597720070423

[drtom2005]

Wow...it's absolutely astounding how you pay no attention whatsoever to anything someone else says...but understandable I guess, you like to hear yourself talk so much, there's no time to listen to others. I would try to explain, but there's no point...I already have repeatedly.

You are the one that stated the evidence was incomplete. I am going to show all much of it.

[drtom2005]

Extreme weather. The first is from the Bush adminstration.

http://www.thedailygreen.com/environ...rming-47061904

http://www.sciencedaily.com/releases...0825151008.htm

http://www.sciencecentric.com/news/a...arctic-regions