book value

[greg271126817]

I always trade cards by becket value, but sell cards at an average of ebay. I dont get how people say the last 1 sold for EX. $100 and one sold the day before it for $60, they will take the lowest price when buying from you, and try to sell to you at the highest price, just because it was the last one sold, But the same person will sell a card at the highest price they can find. They will say last month 1 sold for 100 and i need the same, or close to the same even if the card sold yesterday sold for $50 less. I dont get how people operate. I guess some people think others are stupid? I dont care how others trade or sell, but if i am trading i will trade by book value because i am not going to trade a card i want to keep for something i will trade later. If i am going to sell i want to take the average of sales and sell by that price. All is just my opinion, and is not meant to offend anybody on these boards

[gladdyontherise]

lol. you still dont get it. no one goes and just randomly pickls a number in between the hi and lo value. what im saying is thats how your supposed to guage a BV. by range. its not a set value. it can be anything in between or even before or after. common sense would suggest that.

your someone who takes beckett hi values as a set price, but people who actually use beckett correctly dont do that.

so beckett is not "useless" because it serves as a starting point a range value. ebay doesnt. there are way too many factors on ebay that affect a final sale price. not to mention how shipping costs inflate the final price and those range in numbers in itself.

your saying you are suppose to chose whichever number you feel is fit to trade your card, i get it.

and there is no 'correct' way to use a freaking beckett...all i know is you wont nor will (probably) anyone else trade a card that books the same but has a $40 SV difference, its as simple as that. beckett is made by people who have no idea about the hobby, so you keep on using it. whatever floats your boat.

In your example, just don't trade if you think it is unfair!

I said beckett is a "Guide". And you are referring Beckett as "Bible" now.

Would you trade your MJ auto (BV$1000) for my 10000 base cards (BV $1 each)? It is 10 times more than your BV, and I'm sure you can sell for $0.1 each if you sell them individually.

I wouldnt, i dont trade by book value, dont insult my intelligence though, no one is gonna trade a MJ Auto for base cards, thats a terrible example.

Beckett has another chat for NM-Mint. You use the range (low 10 to high 20) then multiple with some percentage depending on the year. You do not set low for NM-MINT. Beckett has a page in every issue saying "how to use the guide".

another chat?

[xavieronly1]

It is not a terrible example.... 'cuz my example makes no sense at first, and if you agree my example, it is something wrong..

Yes, the page that you see 1948 Bowman, you should see "Card Price Guide". "What's Listed", "Waht the Columns Mean", "What the Arrows mean"... and "Price guide percentage by grade"....

Under "what the columns means", you will see "The published HI and LO column prices in this issue are a single snapshot in time and cannot be exact for every card listed".

And I don't care what you trade by, since I don't trade with you at this moment. As long as the trade does not sound good to me, I care less what it is.

[SHoCKBiZZLE]

lol @ the people at beckett not knowing anything about this hobby. =/

[xavieronly1]

Beckett was useful when internet was not this popular. Now, you get to compare everything, and Beckett only updates 6 times per year. It just has major delay to reflect what the market really is.

[suki24]

I have an online subscription to them, and I use them for reference. They give you an idea of what the value should be worth, but they aren't 100% accurate as market prices fluctuate often. Durant cards are listed way lower than they are worth, he's having a stellar season, that's due to Beckett not updating.

[bballcardheaven]

Beckett is completely stupid. If you give me a range of $350-$700 that isn't saying much if I want to go and sell it. I still am pretty clueless on what to sell it for as that is a $350 range. Beckett values have no relation to sell values because as you said two cards with a BV of $10-$20 can be worth $11 or $19, which means a trade for two cards with an equal BV is not an equal trade in terms of real market value. Real market values are the most important, not some range that a magazine tells me.

[jack mooler1]

beckett just as a guide is fine but sell value is where its at

[SHoCKBiZZLE]

Beckett is completely stupid. If you give me a range of $350-$700 that isn't saying much if I want to go and sell it. I still am pretty clueless on what to sell it for as that is a $350 range. Beckett values have no relation to sell values because as you said two cards with a BV of $10-$20 can be worth $11 or $19, which means a trade for two cards with an equal BV is not an equal trade in terms of real market value. Real market values are the most important, not some range that a magazine tells me.

like I said, market value has alot of influences - ranging from shilling to shipping costs to listing wording, etc. its no more set in stone then the beckett. like your example of the 10-20 card - one can sell on ebay for 12 and then sell next time for 18. the other can sell for 14 both times. no equality there either. but they both sell in the same range. just as beckett says. youll never find cards that have exact same sell values. so in essence, no trade will ever be "fair" no matter how you look at it. market value, or book value.

[nissandriver77]

How can you go by sale value with all the shillers, bad listings and variables on the bay .

If a card sold for $60 today , $110 last week , and on three other occasions $48, $115 , $72 what is the card worth ?