Health Care bill passes

[OnePimpTiger]

My .02 is that if they want to reform healthcare they should start with eliminating ridiculous costs for menial medical services. I find it a joke that I go see my doctor for a sinus infection then he charges my insurance $87 because he saw me for 4 minutes and looked up my nose. One, I already knew I had a sinus infection and really just needed a prescription for it and two, by the hour he is knocking down somewhere around $800.

Somebody please explain to me why it is OK that doctors make more in an hour or two than most people make in a week??.....

Well that's pretty simple .. he has to have some way to pay back those ridiculous college loans he racked up in his 15 some years of studying ... right?

I hear ya though man, I tried a couple weeks back to call my Doc and tell him listen I've got a sinus infection and I need you to call me in some antibiotics ... his response was I need to see you so I can make sure it's a sinus infection. my response was "thanks but no thanks, I can't afford the $140 out of pocket for you to tell me it's exactly what I know it is ... a sinus infection"

so I went right down the road to the local Walgreens, and into the clinic there, and 20 minutes later I was done with med's in hand ... and it only cost me $40 total.

I could not for the life of me figure out why my doctor charges $140 out of pocket for a visit and the clinic charges $40 with meds included? then it came to me .. the clinic nurse did not go through 15 years of education and rack up $483,264 in student loans that she has to gouge me on to pay back!!

Yeah, do you really expect a doctor to give you a prescription without seeing you with all of the prescription drug abuse that's going on today? That could open them up to malpractice, but I'm pretty sure they could get into legal troubles just for prescribing without diagnosing.

And speaking of malpractice/tort reform, that would help a lot with the costs of health care and doctors visits...but guess what wasn't in the health care bill...

This bill did next to nothing to address health care costs.

[INTIMADATOR2007]

Scary times are ahead folks ..Buckle up and Vote out Democrats or It's over !!

[Theodor Madison]

I really think this bill with the new census is to keep track of people and where they are. I hope the bill gets repealed. No one can make you buy what you do not want, Not even the government. One step to a new world order. Anyone want to buy other world problems?

[JeRmZ]

Yeah, do you really expect a doctor to give you a prescription without seeing you with all of the prescription drug abuse that's going on today? That could open them up to malpractice, but I'm pretty sure they could get into legal troubles just for prescribing without diagnosing.

It would be pretty funny IMO if someone was abusing Amoxicillin ...


Hey bro, I got a fresh bottle of 500mg Amoxicillin, I'm sellin these baby's for $15 a piece man cuz they really get you jackkkkkked up!!!!

[OnePimpTiger]

It would be pretty funny IMO if someone was abusing Amoxicillin ...


Hey bro, I got a fresh bottle of 500mg Amoxicillin, I'm sellin these baby's for $15 a piece man cuz they really get you jackkkkkked up!!!!

Hey, you never know man. Somebody will mix it with Comet, Worther's Originals, WD-40, and a hint of anti-bacterial soap and it will be the newest hardcore drug craze.

It drives me crazy too...I only get one cold/sinus infection a year, maybe two, the only illnesses I ever get. I've gotten to the point I just take Alka Seltzer to control the symptoms and just ride it out instead of going to the doctor.

[tnopud42]

To play the devil's advocate - since everyone seems to be against this plan what are your alternatives? And to believe bringing back the republicans is going to make a difference seems foolish to me. They had 8 years under Bush and did next to nothing on health care.

[JeRmZ]

Hey, you never know man. Somebody will mix it with Comet, Worther's Originals, WD-40, and a hint of anti-bacterial soap and it will be the newest hardcore drug craze.

Tried it!!! Didn't do anything for me ... just sayin!

To play the devil's advocate - since everyone seems to be against this plan what are your alternatives? And to believe bringing back the republicans is going to make a difference seems foolish to me. They had 8 years under Bush and did next to nothing on health care.

How about we focus on the real problems like turning around a crumbling economy, shutting down the Federal Reserve, bringin our soldiers home, fixing the housing market so decent people can afford to live again. Those are just a few off the top of my head that I can think of ...

I mean really, what was so bad with the healthcare system that it had to be the first and foremost problem dealt with? IMO .... nothing, other than maybe placing some regualtions on insurance companies and Doctors it seemed to be working out ok for me and a few million other Americans.

again .. just sayin

[OnePimpTiger]

To play the devil's advocate - since everyone seems to be against this plan what are your alternatives? And to believe bringing back the republicans is going to make a difference seems foolish to me. They had 8 years under Bush and did next to nothing on health care.

Tort reform, Medicare/Medicaid reform, deregulating health insurance to allow people to purchase from across state lines, just to name a few. Ridiculous amounts of malpractice insurance and unnecessary procedures/treatment to avoid lawsuits drive up the cost of health care visits. The estimates for waste and fraud in Medicare and Medicaid for 2009 was $47B (Obama's plan for this is auditors that will save an estimated $2B over the next three years...$2B out of around $130B plus in waste). And allowing people to purchase insurance across state lines would increase competition and help reduce prices.

The Democrat plan did next-to-nothing to actually address costs...all it did was shift the burden of who pays for it. They're treating the symptoms, not the disease, to use a health care metaphor.

[tnopud42]

OnePimpTiger, thank you a well thought out answer.

[hendrikus1967]

Welcome comrads to the new Amerika. Everything our forefathers have fought for has offically becan to decay, the stench of rot wifts high as this new regime slams down another iron fist upon us. Think things will get better Dream on. You know know why they call it the American dream, because you have ot be asleep to believe it. What darn right does the government have to tell someone they have to have insurance or face fines which will eventually lead to jail time ...... To all those who voted for Obama thanks for everything.....

You're welcome!! Ahhhh....what a great day today.....:)