Official 2009-10 Chicago Bulls Thread

[Italy61587]

Cleveland is in the position they are because of the team top to bottom. If it was all because of LeBron, why did they struggle to win 30 games his first two seasons? You need a solid rotation, and the Cavs have arguably the best in the game.

Varejao is priceless. You, as a Bulls fan of all people, should understand that since you have Noah. Varejao doesn't have the 2nd highest plus/minus in the NBA for no reason....he makes countless hustle plays, and ALWAYS finds a way to give the Cavs an extra possession whenever possible.

Struggle to win 30 games his first two seasons you ask??? He was 18 years old for cryin out loud...Did you want him to win you a ring before he could have a legal drink?? Their rotation wouldn't be that solid if lebron couldn't play 4 positions, especially the way Brown coaches with his "set minutes."

I'll give you that Varejao plays a similar game to Noah and gives that extra energy, but doesn't make him a sixth man.

[nadeau01_johnson48]

Struggle to win 30 games his first two seasons you ask??? He was 18 years old for cryin out loud...Did you want him to win you a ring before he could have a legal drink?? Their rotation wouldn't be that solid if lebron couldn't play 4 positions, especially the way Brown coaches with his "set minutes."

I'll give you that Varejao plays a similar game to Noah and gives that extra energy, but doesn't make him a sixth man.

And yet he still put up monster numbers, proving that he still needs help to win a bunch of games every season....

[whalechaser]

And yet he still went 21/5/6 and 27/7/7 his first two seasons.....

And yet his teams didn't make the playoffs both years . . .

Like I written before, and if you read carefully would've understood that I'm not talking about physically, but mentally as in having the killer instinct, leadership qualities, etc. that many players do not have their first few years in the league.

And back in those two seasons, he had enough help that if he had the same team right now he would make them a 50+ win team.

[nadeau01_johnson48]

And yet his teams didn't make the playoffs both years . . .

Like I written before, and if you read carefully would've understood that I'm not talking about physically, but mentally as in having the killer instinct, leadership qualities, etc. that many players do not have their first few years in the league.

You're just making my point stronger. He put up big numbers, yet the team was so bad they struggled to win games. His numbers aren't that ridiculously better this season than in his 2nd year, but he has so much more talent around him.

Doesn't matter what killer instinct you have/don't have if the rest of your team sucks...

ANYWAYS, done arguing. Back on topic, good luck to you guys in making the playoffs. Schedule looks fairly similar with Toronto's.

[whalechaser]

Varejao is the best, hands down. If you don't like it, tough. We don't need a firepower 6th man like Manu or Crawford to light up for 20 a night off the bench. Varejao is the epitome of what a 6th man should be for the Cavs. And he does it better than anyone in the league. A big part of why they have the best record, and again, why Andy is 2nd in the league in +/-.

I love your love for your team. Excellent! I hope the Bulls does get the Cavs the first round so we can have more idea exchanges about why "Varejao is the best, hands down". Maybe he'll be voted sixth man of the year this year too. Who knows?! Certainly not I or any of the other people who follow the sport, I think you do though. I think they should just have you elect the sixth man of the year (Varejao), mvp (Lebron James), most improved player (JJ Hickson), and the all defensive team (the entired Cavs team) while you are at it.

[whalechaser]

You're just making my point stronger. He put up big numbers, yet the team was so bad they struggled to win games. His numbers aren't that ridiculously better this season than in his 2nd year, but he has so much more talent around him.

Doesn't matter what killer instinct you have/don't have if the rest of your team sucks...

ANYWAYS, done arguing. Back on topic, good luck to you guys in making the playoffs. Schedule looks fairly similar with Toronto's.

I don't get how that makes your point stronger? Like I said:

And back in those two seasons, he had enough help that if he had the same team right now he would make them a 50+ win team. I have no doubt of that.

ANYWAY, you are right, I need to get back to work haha it's been fun. maybe we'll meet in the playoffs or actually maybe the Bulls will fail like they've been doing so much this season and you'll face Toronto haha. . ..

[nadeau01_johnson48]

I love your love for your team. Excellent! I hope the Bulls does get the Cavs the first round so we can have more idea exchanges about why "Varejao is the best, hands down". Maybe he'll be voted sixth man of the year this year too. Who knows?! Certainly not I or any of the other people who follow the sport, I think you do though. I think they should just have you elect the sixth man of the year (Varejao), mvp (Lebron James), most improved player (JJ Hickson), and the all defensive team (the entired Cavs team) while you are at it.

I hope we draw the Bulls too, since you seem rather confident.

[whalechaser]

I hope we draw the Bulls too, since you seem rather confident.

It would be fun since the Bulls and Cavs have had a history in the past.

[jp98]

Rose is a choker!!! 2 Turover and a missed free throw that would have won. We still control our own destiny but it wont be easy.

[nadeau01_johnson48]

What? You lost that game against New Jersey? I quit paying attention when you guys were up 7 in OT....