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09-07-2010, 12:41 PM #31
CoolHandLuke makes a good point. Vintage is so broad a term that its hard to pin point.
"What is vintage?" is an interesting question. Maybe we need a different system like Comics. In comics there are the "Gold Age" "Silver Age" "Bronze Age" and "modern age", etc. etc.
Perhaps...
1910-1949 - "Wartime" Vintage Cards
1950's -"Gold Age" Vintage Cards
1960's -78 - "Silver Age" Vintage Cards
1979-89 - "Modern Age" Vintage Cards
1990-95 - Mass Production Era Cards
1995-04 - Jersey Era Cards
05-Present - Post Lock Out Era Cards
That way you could say that you are a "Silver Age" or earlier vintage collector or, a "Modern Age" vintage collector, or a "Wartime" Vintage card collector and so on.
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09-07-2010, 01:05 PM #32New Project Manager
I don’t want to get out of the discussion to much, but Reoddai make a good suggestion. The fact we started to collect all card information, we can do like Beckett did and re-define things in the hobby. For a long time, collectors used Beckett as a bible. With internet, this change things a lot and we also entered in a new era for collectors. It was clear to me in 2008 that it was time that card collector be able to access something better then what the web had to offer. This is how I found SCF and figure out it would be my best bet to work with them to give back to collector some say in what they collect.
Already with our card database, we take request of cards sometime listed no where on internet. Why not attempt to redefine some of the terms if we can come to some agreement with most members from most sports.
The fact we now collect the card and card set, we will be in the next year able to link all card set information. We will collect a sample card image for all card produce so we are in the process of collecting the whole array of cards out there. Mainly we are building the history of cards in a well organized database.
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But that may be a good idea to consider to define better era where members can agree on them. Why not let collector have a say in define the future of cards collecting.
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05-Present - Post Lock Out Era Cards
That is too specific to hockey, I would prefer a wider term that would fit nor any sports and use these term maybe site wise not just hockey wise.Last edited by CoolHandLuke; 09-07-2010 at 01:10 PM.
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09-07-2010, 01:11 PM #33
I find vintage difficult to trade for. Condition is certainly an aspect of it. I rarely pick up anything that isn't EXMT at minimum because I know I'll need to upgrade it later (prewar is exempt from this).
Conversely, most of my dupes are cards that I already upgraded, so odds are that they have a wart or two. They're probably better suited as eBay fodder because people won't trade NM for EX unless it's a big star, and there's only so many of those.
When I do have a nice trader, it's not that common to find someone who both needs it and has something of interest in return. Maybe that's the state of trading in general, but I find it harder with vintage.
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09-07-2010, 02:41 PM #34
This, for example, is only VGEX, but you wouldn't know it to look at the scan. (Look closely at the stats at the back - a light crease runs right through them.)
Last edited by 1967ers; 09-07-2010 at 02:41 PM. Reason: sloppy image paste
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09-07-2010, 02:57 PM #35
1967ers..that is a valid point you made..I too use the same methods to obtain cards and am constantly upgrading them and trading off the lower grade card to widen the collection..i love the Howe card you posted above..even with a small 'wart' through the stats and would love to work a trade for it....once things settle down a bit for you..drop me a PM and we can work on our trade further.
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09-07-2010, 02:59 PM #36
I found a bunch of others (one even sans warts)! Will scan ASAP.
("Found" is pretty literal. My place is a mess.)
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09-07-2010, 06:00 PM #37
I do pick up vintage here and there and have a few nice pieces. I think mostly b/c I want to try to relate with my brother and that's all he collects, vintage baseball.
I collect Blue Jackets stuff almost exclusively and I think that's only thing that keeps me from massively collecting vintage is the lack of personal appeal. I don't have a dog in the race, per say. I don't like any of the original six teams and it keeps me from going out and buying more expensive vintage. There are a few vintage players I do pick up stuff from or if there is someone at a show with some decent vintage hockey.
I do believe that vintage will almost always keep it's value a lot more than any other card produced.
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09-07-2010, 06:36 PM #38
hi
i wasn't referring to the 60's 70'sand 80's as high end vintage. was just making a comment regarding them.
cheers mike
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09-07-2010, 06:51 PM #39
Pre 50's Hockey was not very popular in Quebec
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Who told you that? That's balderdash. When Howie Morenz died, not one Montrealer showed up for work on the day of his funeral. It was the biggest day of mourning in the history of Quebec, and even bigger than when Rene Levesque died.
Sure the Habs were at their most popular in 1974, but that also coincided with Montreal's largest population. Urban Montreal has declined steadily, and soon won't have as many people as Vancouver.
But Hockey in Quebec has always been mad, mad, mad, just like on the Prairies and especially Saskatchewan.
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09-07-2010, 06:56 PM #40
Vintage to me is of course anything that is old, but a real defining mark to vintage is the 89-90 OPC issue. Notable Rookies - Sakic, Fleury, Leetch, Tugger.
This is the first mass-produced set that was not wire cut by OPC, they made almost as much of this issue as Score made of the 90-91, or ProSet of the 91-92 issue.
1989 is certainly not old, but it's the year that OPC finally moved to technology from bungling and messing cards up by hand.
There is still nothing like a fuzzy-edged OPC wire-cut card. Lol
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Originally Posted by reoddai 
